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[-] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

There's even madmen in charge and arms dealers in Russia, don't you know? Sure that you know there's been conflict in the Crimea for centuries and there are some quite complex reasons why. I'm_ sorry that you feel that foreigners are out to get you and you need the ability to murderously exterminate them with nukes to feel safe - but each to their own.

But, when Vlad Putin is driving round my estate in a bright red sports car, the local Coop's a Magnit superstore and Mr and Mr Boloksoff have camped in my back garden and are eyeing up the sofa in my front room I'll apologise and say "Blimey, we really shoud have turned Eastern Europe to ashes in a huge cloud of atomic radiation when had the chance! Bastards!"

[-] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

If you want all countries to give up their nukes then I would agree with that. Perhaps the US could theoretically achieve a world without nukes if they threatened sanctions against countries who keep nukes.

But in reality, if the UK gives up its nukes, no other country will do so. I think Europe should possess nukes for the foreseeable future. Like I said before, if Europe dismantles its nukes, all it would mean is that the US, China, and Russia would suddenly have a lot of leverage over Europe.

[-] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

If Russia and China gave up nukes, would that mean we have leverage and would immediately invade? Silly me, all British people want nothing more than to attack our "enemies" and restore the Empire!

(I'm still scratching my head about all those countries that don't have nukes. Hmmm... maybe Iran SHOULD be seeking to arm themselves with nukes if they want better "leverage".

[-] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Russia and China are not going to give up nukes any time soon. If the US under a future president decided to try and negotiate disarmament to eliminate all nukes then that might work. I think that's the only way Russia or China would give up nukes. Until then I think Europe should keep nukes as a deterrent.

So yes, multilateral disarmament could work, and could prevent lots more countries from building nukes. I don't think unilateral disarmament is a good idea though.

this post was submitted on 07 May 2026
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