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  • voting is useless and ineffective
  • voting was useful and effective for Trump getting into office
  • most Americans hate trump
  • most Americans voted for Trump (well ok no but we're also counting the people who didn't vote as voting for Trump)
  • Americans should do something!
  • The Americans doing something aren't doing it right, they should do a violence!
  • Americans are so violent omg
  • Americans should do a general strike!
  • does not talk about or signal boost the general strike
  • All Americans deserve what's happening to them!
  • Oh no these poor Americans getting shot and kidnapped!
  • other countries should do something!
  • it's America's mess they should be the one who clean it up!
  • the opposition should be united!
  • fuck Democrats, liberals, and anyone who isn't my specific level of left, no compromise for getting anyone into office!
  • vote the Republicans out!
  • but fuck Democrats don't vote for them!
  • but also fuck third party voting is useless anyway!
  • This is Donald Trump's fault!
  • actually we're going to blame Democrats though

Like, I get that it's different people, but I never see anyone calling this out. I think the worst is people who say we should be united and then actively do things to divide people.

It's this seriously the best we can do? It just feels like people can't get their shit together. I'm tired of my own side being more willing to fight each other than the GOP.

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[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Voting = being a liberal

I don't trust anyone's opinions if they try to convince people not to vote. It's literally the most baseline minimal form of activism you can do. It's not a right, left, capitalist or communist action, so I'm not sure why you think it's a bad thing to vote.

I've heard people say that the people who didn't vote should count as people who voted for Trump because they "let this happen" but still will say that not voting somehow is a baller left tactic. If it was such a great idea, why is the right trying to make it harder for people? And more importantly, why are you promoting the idea that the right wants?

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm not sure why you think it's a bad thing to vote.

Because we should simply refuse to participate in an inherently genocidal system. Reject the notion that it even remotely represents us.

If it was such a great idea, why is the right trying to make it harder for people?

Because capital has factions. The right wing of capital wants to make it harder for the left wing of capital to get their way. The leftist view is: reject capital in all its forms. Leftists are not literally right-contrarians, i.e. do what the right tells us they don't want. This would make leftists manipulable. Rightists are notorious liars.

I've heard people say that the people who didn't vote should count as people who voted for Trump because they "let this happen" but still will say that not voting somehow is a baller left tactic.

You're conflating the opinions of two diametrically opposed camps of people.

And more importantly, why are you promoting the idea that the right wants?

The right wants us to fuck off and die. How that gets achieved is subject to debate within their circles. The right most certainly does not want us to give them the wall. The right most certainly does not want us to develop dual power, take direct action to right the wrongs of capitalism, do mutual aid and community defense, and generally live outside their imposed norms and morality. If the right wing of capital has to lose at all, they would rather lose to the left wing of capital, for a simple reason: they understand that losing to the left wing of capital is neither permanent nor substantiative.

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