The 13 'Down Down' tickets behind Coles' court loss — and what the ruling could mean (www.sbs.com.au)

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[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I hope someone takes them to court over spying on people with AI cameras next. That must've already happened, right?

[-] auzy1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

There's no law however that protects against that though unless they record voice..

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 week ago

They can record voice too. You’re on their property.

[-] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's incorrect in most states. Wiretapping laws generally would require that they're part of the conversation

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 6 days ago

When used for surveillance to prevent theft by a business that’s not the case.

[-] auzy1@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's not true, at least not in Victoria and many other states I'm aware of. Again, I know because I used to install/configure cameras, including in carparks and even a large shopping center. It's also why most cameras don't even include a mic at all

Feel free to show us the exception in the law.

Furthermore, it wouldn't make any sense as it would be the world's most obvious loophole and violate people's privacy. As literally everyone could just claim they were trying to identify theft. And, it would still allow people to listen to the conversation if they were watching the nvr without being a part of the convo

In some states, you need to be a part of the conversation. In others, you need permission from the other side too.

This isn't just Australia, world-wide in most countries a sign doesn't count for consent

There's a reason you never see security footage on TV with audio recorded. You can possibly record a crime being performed as evidence, but, supermarket cameras would be recording all audio, including unrelated audio ..

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It depends on the purpose and the use. Recording audio on theft prevention cameras is allowed, as long as it’s not being used specifically for spying on private conversations. Ie employees can’t just watch it to listen to what people are saying.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 1 week ago

What would you sue them for exactly? What law do you think they’ve broken?

[-] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I remember seeing a video of their system behind the scenes, maybe in an attempt to reassure us we're not being facial recognitioned or something -- it showed height dots walking around the store.

Hmm, so it's actually far worse.. I suppose that means gait analysis, too (≈mood/tiredness?). Combined with where you go in the store, how you pause at each display, what time of day/week, then finally correlating it with your card details and direct in your face camera at the checkout.

It's an incredibly detailed picture of who someone is.

What a lovely relationship they have with Palantir and Microsoft. I love being a participant in the genocide machine every time I feed myself. (I'm assuming Coles is still in bed with them).