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cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/49178

Why They Don’t Want You Driving a Chinese Car

I took my first ride in a Chinese car recently. Not in the U.S., of course, since sky-high tariffs have made them almost impossible to import. I was visiting family in the U.K., and we rented a BYD Sealion SUV. And let me tell you: I saw immediately why American car companies are desperate to have these things kept out of this country. It was elegantly designed, incredibly comfortable, and a smooth ride.


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[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm in IT and personally I'd genuinely like to see a "grey hat" examination of the internet traffic they send/receive before I'm ready to listen to a car reviewer giving reviews on how nice the seats are or charging is.
The fact that I work in IT is also why my home is secured with security doors and deadbolts.

It's worth looking into how much data modern US cars are gathering as well, if you're concerned with that. Frankly, it seems like you're just deciding who gets your data at a certain point.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

As a Canadian who holds negative views of both the American and Chinese governments, I think to myself: which am I more likely to visit someday and will therefore have the opportunity to stick me in an ICE detention center when they look up my profile to discover that? Which of the two governments is a more direct threat to my own country's security and sovereignty?

I get an answer that would perhaps surprise Americans.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

I think to myself: which am I more likely to visit someday

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was China for quite a few people.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 week ago

Your answer is China? That is really surprising.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

America has threatened to forcibly annex Canada. China has not. So yeah. China's certainly got its problems, but I don't feel as personally or nationally threatened by them.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 week ago

I was being facetious. No American who has been paying attention would be surprised by your conclusion.

[-] alpha1beta@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Even if they prove there's nothing bad happening, I will never ever, trust them not to change that, very suddenly. They could love to have 100M American cars they can brick the moment a U.S. President says "Taiwan is a country"

But hell, I'm in the market for a car and I'm spending more time researching how to remove the LTE than on milage or features. I'd rather drive a go-cart down I-95 in rush hour than have my car selling everywhere I go, or tracking how many times I hit "next track"

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Just remove the fuse, or if the fuse is tied to other components and you don’t care to ever reenable the LTE, remove the antenna. Just keep in mind that removing the antenna can permanently damage the unit.

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's sort of why I want them. America loves to customize cars. We'd take them apart and put them back together again six ways from Sunday.

There'd be YouTube channels dedicated to this and recycling the drivetrains with various levels of creativity. There'd be someone rewinding motors for torque and reflashing anything they could find to see what happens.

It will be a good time

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

And don't drive any vehicle made in the US in the last 15years?

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

No one trusts the Chinese. Do we trust the Germans? Certainly the level of trust in the Americans has fallen based on the Donny the Demented storm trooper state. The Chinese play a long game where the free marketeers play short term profits and it’s obvious that they have produced a black swan.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

Having used some lockpicks, unless you have the best locks those deadbolts won't stop anyone. The worst I can pick faster than I could get the correct key into the lock (I only have 3 keys on my keyring) - and I'm not even any good at picking locks. The medium quality will stop me, but again I'm not good, it won't stop anyone who has put in any practice...

I've also been in construction long enough to know there are faster ways into a house than through the doors if I'm trying to be dishonest. Fortunately most people are honest.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Deadbolt will slow even a professional down long enough to make 100% sure they have time to hear the slide loudly cycle on something on the other side of that door.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

Assuming somebody is home. Even in Texas you don't get to have a robot that shoots anyone who comes to the door when you are not home.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago

but you can own a great dane anywhere.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Great Danes are big babies.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

You can safely assume that everything that goes through the car's computer is sent to the manufacturer, no difference if it's Tesla, BYD or BMW

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

They all do it, but at the very least, European manufacturers are liable for GDPR violations for cars being used in the EU.

I was sent a tiktok link by someone recently so I opened it and this is what they have showing on their website:

Remote-access “transfers of EEA User Data to China”: Update on Irish GDPR decision

In April 2025, the Irish Data Protection Commission (DPC) found that TikTok had not complied with GDPR requirements in relation to transfers of some "EEA User Data to China by way of remote access". The DPC ordered TikTok to bring its transfers into compliance within 6 months, failing which they must be suspended. TikTok strongly disagrees with the DPC's decision and is appealing through the Irish courts. The High Court of Ireland has paused the decision while that happens, allowing the transfers to continue for now.

They straight up don't give a fuck, they'll just continue doing what they're doing and appeal it through the courts.

What happens if they do lose? They'll just close down their European operations and leave a huge sign blaming the GDPR and people will complain until they get special privileges. Because as a Chinese company, they can easily afford to lose a huge market like Europe.

BYD, Geely, etc can do the same. China's got enough leverage on us.

[-] GarbadgeGoober@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Well back in 2016, when I was working for a European car manufacturer, all the data of cars in China went straight to a mirror server of the government. For all other countries the data was stored at the company servers.

Back then Chinese EV vehicles were no thing, so not sure how they handle it now.

But as you said, you can safely assume all the data goes to someone. Depends if they have something like GDPR in place or not, they can see most of your data and connect it to he user account.

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