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[-] KianaTabion@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Hmm..., I didn't get that from your first response. But thank you for clarifying!

Once you start getting into the territory of layering new tools/drivers/whatever on top, you’re reintroducing the statefulness that the atomicity was supposed to eliminate.

I agree with your sentiment overall, but with a lot of nuance. I'd rather formulate it purposely ambiguous as follows: Once you start getting into the territory of modifying stuff, you might reintroduce some of the statefulness that the paradigm was supposed to eliminate.

I am aware that this ambiguity invites clarity and elaboration. And therefore I'd like to offer my genuine apologies for not responding to said invitation. However, I hope that this excellently written blogpost suffices in conveying how systems can be both stateless and ever-mutable.

spoilerThe answer is indeed by going declarative.

[-] samc@feddit.uk 1 points 22 hours ago

No apologies necessary! I was partly kicking the hornets nest to see if an interesting discussion fell out...

That blog post is absolutely brilliant! It does a great job of stating what a user should want from a system: easy and deterministic re-deployment. If atomic ends up being the best too for that job, I'll come back. But for now I'm happy with Debian, a separate home partition, and a strong preference for flatpak over apt.

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