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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Bernie is a social democrat, which sides with capital over socialism.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

How does social democracy affirm capitalism over socialism? By maintaining private ownership of the means of production without transitioning to a dictatorship of the proletariat. How is Bernie a social democrat? By holding to reform over revolution, and siding with the US over overthrowing it.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Who is the main driving force of the revolution?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

The working classes, I don't see the immediate relevance.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago

My point is the "revolution" you are gesturing to isn't there.

The working class right now doesn't work together, Bernie and people like him are trying to get them together, but you needlessly nitpicking doesn't do one fucking iota to a revolution.

Anyway left is better, and no that doesn't include neo libs and their obvious attraction to the right.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

In order to actually organize, it's important to align in an actual working class political party. Bernie is working within the Democrats and not supporting actual movement away from them. I am not "needlessly nitpicking," revolutionary strategy requires building up a revolutionary org like PSL.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

What has the PSL accomplished?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

A lot! They've been spearheading a lot of the anti-war and anti-ICE protests, help run community drives and organize tenant and worker unions, and have been growing a revolutionary organization with trained cadres. This is exactly what a revolutionary org needs to do, organize the working classes.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

Okay, DSA supports tenant and worker unions as well, is it bad when DSA does it?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

No? My point has never once been that everything the DSA does is a bad thing. The DSA's reformist strategy is a problem, and the org itself lacks discipline due to rejecting democratic centralism.

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