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Can’t a corporation just enter the space whenever they want to? Can’t they start or even buy out larger instances? Even if Lemmy does take off, wouldn’t this inevitably happen anyway if the space gets popular enough?

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 208 points 1 year ago

Think about email. A lot of people use Gmail, Hotmail, or other big email providers. However, Oxford University can run its own email server for its own university community. The EFF can run their own email server for their own purposes. Google or Microsoft doesn't get to dictate to Oxford or the EFF how they run their email server; and they can't stand in the way of Oxford and the EFF sending email to one another.

[-] wemoguse@vlemmy.net 57 points 1 year ago

It is not that simple to run your own email server anymore. Big providers like Google will treat emails from your server as spam and you will have a difficult time having the mail properly delivered. So big tech has effectively squeezed out federated email.

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago

FUD

I have self hosted my email for five years. I'm a hobbyist and it is no problem for me.

Occassionally (very rarely) an email to a new address I've never sent before will end up erroneously in a spam folder. This never happens when I send to a business. Instead of everyone throwing up their hands and saying email is way too hard now, how about we hold the big providers accountable for their obvious bullying?

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because we can't. Who are you going to complain to about it?

Don't get me wrong, would love to give them as much pain as possible over this. But I don't see how we can do anything. If I start my own email server, I'm probably going to miss important emails and end up in lots of troubleshooting things. I'm wish it wasnt so. The ideas of the original internet was amazing but capitalism can't be reasoned with.

It consumes all until there is nothing left.

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

some of them blacklist large blocks of ip addresses. Lawsuits can go a long way to forcing them to justify and/or stop this. EFF is working on this, so I give them money. The other thing I can do personally is write to legislators and make sure they are aware of the issue. It's not yerribly satisfying, but I hope it helps.

In the meantime, I will not be deterred from self hosting. F*@k google.

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

Keep up the good fight. I'm grateful you are trying. And fuck Google.

[-] R51@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If anything anyone could also just pick a mail routing server, pay like $50 a year and have as many emails for as many domains as they want. I got one, I have like 8 domains pointed to it for emails. All I had to do was fill in the blanks for the DNS page for the domain (mx, and the spf+dkim) and all emails I send go to inbox like butter. Unlimited email accounts, takes 15 seconds to make, no phone no name no nothing just email+pass and it exists now.

gmail was nice for a bit, but shit man I don't want to give my life story and phone number every time I want to make an email address.

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