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Schoolgirls who refused to change out of the loose-fitting robes have been sent home with a letter to parents on secularism.


French public schools have sent dozens of girls home for refusing to remove their abayas – long, loose-fitting robes worn by some Muslim women and girls – on the first day of the school year, according to Education Minister Gabriel Attal.

Defying a ban on the garment seen as a religious symbol, nearly 300 girls showed up on Monday morning wearing abayas, Attal told the BFM broadcaster on Tuesday.

Most agreed to change out of the robe, but 67 refused and were sent home, he said.

The government announced last month it was banning the abaya in schools, saying it broke the rules on secularism in education that have already seen headscarves forbidden on the grounds they constitute a display of religious affiliation.

The move gladdened the political right but the hard left argued it represented an affront to civil liberties.

The 34-year-old minister said the girls refused entry on Monday were given a letter addressed to their families saying that “secularism is not a constraint, it is a liberty”.

If they showed up at school again wearing the gown there would be a “new dialogue”.

He added that he was in favour of trialling school uniforms or a dress code amid the debate over the ban.

Uniforms have not been obligatory in French schools since 1968 but have regularly come back on the political agenda, often pushed by conservative and far-right politicians.

Attal said he would provide a timetable later this year for carrying out a trial run of uniforms with any schools that agree to participate.

“I don’t think that the school uniform is a miracle solution that solves all problems related to harassment, social inequalities or secularism,” he said.

But he added: “We must go through experiments, try things out” in order to promote debate, he said.


‘Worst consequences’

Al Jazeera’s Natacha Butler, reporting from Paris before the ban came into force said Attal deemed the abaya a religious symbol which violates French secularism.

“Since 2004, in France, religious signs and symbols have been banned in schools, including headscarves, kippas and crosses,” she said.

“Gabriel Attal, the education minister, says that no one should walk into a classroom wearing something which could suggest what their religion is.”

On Monday, President Emmanuel Macron defended the controversial measure, saying there was a “minority” in France who “hijack a religion and challenge the republic and secularism”.

He said it leads to the “worst consequences” such as the murder three years ago of teacher Samuel Paty for showing Prophet Muhammad caricatures during a civics education class.

“We cannot act as if the terrorist attack, the murder of Samuel Paty, had not happened,” he said in an interview with the YouTube channel, HugoDecrypte.

An association representing Muslims has filed a motion with the State Council, France’s highest court for complaints against state authorities, for an injunction against the ban on the abaya and the qamis, its equivalent dress for men.

The Action for the Rights of Muslims (ADM) motion is to be examined later on Tuesday.


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[-] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So it's a competition and you have to be more of a zealot than them?

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Bro, no one is more zealot than Muslims and islam, and France is stopping them, and im happy of that.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

No one is more zealous than the fascists we have in France. But apparently you share their views so whatever.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

How is that relevant with France? Iran being fascist is completely irrelevant to France becoming fascist. The same kind of argument was used against Jews and roms by Hitler.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yikes. What a poor comparison.

When France suggests the imprisonment of Muslims, then I'll be in your side. Right now Muslims are the ones imprisoning and killing women and members of the LGBT community for not following their ideals.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Police is litteraly killing Arabs in france this year and imprisoning people who protest against that.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

France since June. No one in France is unaware of that. A boy was killed, which led to riots, which led to more kills and something like 3k arrests. "Peace" is back, but that only means that people killed don't make the news anymore.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So no source. Go tell your made up stories to someone else.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

What the fuck how insane are you? You don't know France obviously so what are you even trying?

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