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Sorry I'll wait for the final report. Something was almost certainly fucked up with that kid before hand.
They are hot, but no fuckin way do I believe for a second that chip killed that kid without subs freakish underlying condition.
This. There's no known mechanism by which oral capsaicin can kill someone, and millions of these chips have been sold and eaten without incident. They've been on the market for 7 years. You'll notice even the article is careful to say that the chip "was implicated in" his death, or that "his mother believes the chip caused his death", but no one will actually say the chip killed him. This is because they don't know what happened at all. It makes sense to pull it from the shelf and I'm glad they did that while they figure out what happened, but unbeknownst to me everyone on Lemmy is a post hoc pathologist because we're all talking like we know for sure the chip killed the kid. Sometimes life is too complicated for common sense, you know?
My guess is allergy to one of the peppers in it, but I guess we have to wait for the autopsy to be sure.
~~Well sure, but the chip still contributed to his death.~~
~~Like, if someone has a skull as thin as an eggshell and you—unknowing—slap that guy and he dies, you still killed him even if someone with a normal skull would’ve been fine.~~
Edit: The Snickers comparison is a much better one, thank you. I rescind my point.
That's a misleading comparison.
The product in question in principle is safe and was used as intended. That the kid died from it, has nothing to do with the product itself. Snicker's wouldn't be pulled, if someone with unknown peanut allergy died from eating one.
THAT'S a misleading comparison.
The One Chip isn't dangerous due to allergens per se, but compounds which can have a strong effect on people's internal biology the same way a pharmaceutical would especially in the concentrations they're using to get the super spicy outcome. Regardless of whether the kid had a preexisting condition if the chip's affect on his body caused changes which contributed to his death then there could be others out there who would have similar complications and as the product continues to gain popularity there is increasing liklihood of such things happening.
These things aren't tested for safety in any way. Hell, a 14 year old was able to get ahold of the product with presumably no issues.
Paqui is being safe by recalling the product, and hopefully we can get to the bottom of this before anyone else is hurt.
What the fuck are you talking about? Have you not heard of the FDA? 😂
Yeah I suppose that statement was a little broader than it needed to be. Since you can't seem to pick up on context clues, I'll spell it out for you: the FDA is not going to put every single food product to market through rigorous testing like you would for a pharmaceutical (nor should they). They are going to weigh in on the overall safety of the ingredients used and that the product is generally safe.
They aren't going to evaluate whether there are potential harms or comorbodities for every single slice of the population, which could lead to complications for products like the One Chip which have high concentrations of potentially harmful compounds.
With something like hot sauce you can point to the serving size as a safety factor, but the chip is meant to be eaten all at once.
Again, Paqui is being safe by recalling the product until more information is available.
I think they should follow suit with some of the other extremely spicey foods. A retailer that I used to go to made you sign a waver and required that you prove that you were at least a certain age to buy it. Part of getting the waiver to sign was being told what it can do.
I didn't buy the hot sauce myself, but the staff explained that it could legitimately burn your skin if you left it on for too long. I wish I remember what the sauce was called.
I was shocked at the time that you had to sign a waver to buy hot sauce. It was a weird concept to me. Incidents like this must be why. It makes sense, now that I think about it.
For real.. going back to the snickers comment, their version of the FDA would pull any food that anybody could be allergic to.
I'll admit when I first was this story I kind of rolled my eyes at it, but the more you look into it the more it makes sense.
An unfortunate tragedy, a kid lost his life. That's terrible and we should do our best to make sure it doesn't happen again.