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Chuck Freeney. He basically invented "Duty Free" stores and became a billionaire in the process. Then decided he should die "broke" and created The Atlantic Philanthropies secretly staking it with a little over a third of his wealth. In 2020 he closed the organization because he had given away the vast majority of his net worth. Mostly as grants to universities all over the world. He also may have low-key helped fund the IRA.
He's still got enough to live comfortably, and I'm sure his family is set up nicely.
Funding one of the biggest terrorist organisations of the 20th century doesn't sound like a very good thing to do... Same goes for all the other Americans who gave them money without realising they were (are) pretty much universally hated across all Ireland - much like how most Muslims hate IS
say it again for those in the back, Lord Mountbatten!
Up the RA
Comparing the IRA to ISIS is legit disgusting.
Not at all, they're both disgusting groups of people (as were & are unionist extremists) who ruined the lives of people they claim to be liberating
Frankly they're incredibly similar organisations
You understand that there's a difference in like, motive right?
Like however you feel about the IRA's methods, their motives is still something worth fighting for. And honestly like when you REALLY fight for something like that, like actually do what's necessary, its a messy process and you're going to do things that moderate liberals look down on as going too far. We can argue about if all of their actions actually serve the cause, but what they wanted to do is something I agree with.
Versus ISIS? Really? What noble and positive goals does ISIS have?
To some people pleasing god and liberating people from sinful leadership is something worth fighting for. And when you REALLY fight for something like that it's a messy process and you're going to to things that moderate liberals look down on as going too far.
That is the exact argument you are trying to make, and if you think that it is a deranged extremist view you should take a good look in the mirror - I can see autism shining through here due to your utter inability to see others points of view and draw equivalences.
Lmao nice ableism asshole.
Don't worry, I'm autistic too, it just so happens that I don't hide behind it or use it as my whole identity and I'm self-aware enough to put in a bunch of extra effort trying to do the things which don't come naturally, like seeing things other points of views
It's fucking hard but at least I don't live in a perpetually online bubble
It's not hard and you've demonstrated that you haven't actually chosen to consider other points of view already with your dogmatic bullshit that can't tell the difference between two vastly different organizations in terms of purpose, ideology, material conditions, and effect. You have stopped your critical thinking at the most vulgar first impression of either side.
Also, being autistic yourself doesn't give you free reign to shit on other autistic people. That does not protect you from being a piece of shit, it just makes you a self-aware piece of shit.
You're a fucking moron and also an ableist piece of shit.
What the fuck are you talking about, most Irish don't dislike the IRA, what kind of brain-dead take is that? The 1916 IRA are heroes, the British were bombarding Dublin. The black and tans were gunning down civilians, and the IRA were fighting back.
Now, the PIRA was a lot more disliked by the Irish, but after Bloody Sunday feelings became mixed. A lot of folks were vehemently against the PIRA, a lot were in support, but the vast majority just wanted the bloodshed to end.
Even then, by % of civilian casualties, the PIRA had a 30% civilian casualty rate, which isn't great. But it's literally better than some of the loyalist paramilitaries which had OVER 50% CIVILIAN CASUALTY RATES.
You go to County Clare and yell Tiochfaidh ár lá on a Saturday night and see how ""universally hated"" the RA are.
And you compare them to ISIS? My god.
Tell me you're either not Irish or a teenager without telling be you're a not Irish or a teenager.
Very few people who lived through the IRA of the 70s to 00s would be saying "BuT tHeY wErE tHe GoOd GuYs 100 YeArS aGo" - to most people the Provisional IRA are the IRA because the original IRA is a thing of history books these days.
As for the loyalist paramilitaries, they were terrorists too. Just because they were doesn't mean the IRA weren't.
tell me you aren't irish without telling me you aren't irish
Posted 4:39 Irish time
Either you're perpetually online and in an echo chamber (hexbear moment) or you're very much not Irish.
Regardless, republicanism and republican slogans are rightly popular, but the (provisional) IRA is not in the slightest, again just like the Islamic symbolism which is used by Muslims but also by extremists who regular people would want no association with.
Wrong
Just spamming wrong everywhere isn't going to win you any debates nor convince anyone.
Funding the IRA is one of the one things anyone has mentioned here that I might give a pass.