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[-] letranger@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Then lastly on Sweden. First of all, it is historic that now Finland is member of the Alliance. And we have to remember the background. The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Crazy how Putin in the words of this ghoul is still more willing to compromise than they are, suggesting at least a less imminently threatening form of membership.

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Because the reality is Russian didn’t want a war and Putin spent ten years trying to avoid it.

If they hadn’t attacked first, Ukraine would be invading them in three years with twice the forces.

Coincidentally, the media would still have said Russia struck first, completely buying whatever Ukraine narrative was put out.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

media would still have said Russia struck first,

Look at Georgia war in 2008

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