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Zelensky dismisses compromise with Putin, pointing to Prigozhin’s death (www.cnn.com)

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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 years ago

Ironically the CIA believes Putin killed Prigozhin to defuse tensions with NATO for exiling Wagner to Belarus.

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If Putin wants to defuse tensions with NATO, he knows what to do.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago

Retreat from Ukraine, then fall out of a window.

[-] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

Right, pullout, like Putin's daddy should have done.

[+] queermunist@lemmy.ml -25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm skeptical the government would allow him to do that.

He's not actually a god-king. If a leader ever became a threat to the power structure, he'd be eliminated. Just ask JFK 🙃

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

I don't think you can compare those situations. Putin has had everyone fall out the window that was a threat to his power. Or accidentally get himself stabbed with poison by a Russian agent. Or pour themselves poisoned tea definitely nobody else poisoned.

[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

In the west we say Putin, like he’s some sorta boogieman. In the US our politicians are essentially puppets with some corporation’s hand up their ass. Yes, Putin has been in power for years; that doesn’t mean he isn’t in power because he keeps the oligarch’s money flowing. The second the money flow comes into question, someone falls from a window.

Now I’m not saying Putin isn’t the one ordering the hits - he could be and also potentially couldn’t be. What I am saying is that there are often multiple versions of the truth and/or layers to that truth.

I think Zelenskyy is right, don’t make deals with the devil. But there’s a 100% certainty that this isn’t only “Putin’s War” and there are more players, potentially those with their hand deep in Putin’s ass, pulling his puppet-strings

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago

You think Putin is the one personally pushing people out of windows?

This is bigger than he is - he's a figurehead of a power bloc within the government, he isn't god.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Since when do leaders have to personally execute every command? He surrounded himself with yes men for decades.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Just ignore that obvious shill. The other day they were denying the importance of education to combat propaganda. It's obvious where their loyalties lie.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Did Putin conquer Russia all by himself?

The idea that he's some kind of lonely tyrant and accountable to no-one really implies that he actually is a god, like he somehow managed to take over the largest country on Earth and rule it with an iron fist and there wasn't anyone else that helped him get there or helps him stay there (and could help him "retire" if he ever became a problem)

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

I've never said he alone is responsible for everything. For example, he has loads of assholes trying to defend him online.

Good night.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Defend him? I literally just said he's an employee of the government, just like every figure head. The government is in charge, not the godking lol

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[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

A day earlier, Prigozhin published a video purportedly from Africa. Next day, he managed to get himself killed on a flight from Moscow. While being exiled.

Not sure what the CIA believes, but it's all sus AF.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

It was a flight from St Petersburg to Moscow, but yes why he was allowed in the country after being exiled shows that in Russia their rules aren't cut and dry.