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Zelensky dismisses compromise with Putin, pointing to Prigozhin’s death (www.cnn.com)

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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[+] bdonvr@thelemmy.club -19 points 1 year ago

Clearly Russia isn't going to do that, no matter how much a bunch of nobodies argue for it online.

Which actually realistic path leads to less dead people?

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Putin being killed by his own people for leading them to this catastrophe.

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Negotiations don't exist for Russia, they are known for breaking all agreements anyways. Russia is not trustworthy in the slightest, they have never missed to prove that. You don't push the trigger on a loaded gun and hope for it to not fire. If you believe otherwise you desperately need to get out of you bubble and drink less Vodka.

Russian people killing Putin is the only way to end this sooner.

[-] SevFTW@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Putin-fanboys love to say “Ukraine needs to negotiate an end to this war” but like to forget that this war started because RuZZia shat on a treaty ensuring the sovereignty of Ukraine in exchange for their nuclear arms.

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Why do liberals always like to forget the Minsk agreements? Like they are always being taken out of the conversation.

[-] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The first agreement collapsed due to the seperatist taking over an airport in Donetsk and saying they won't follow it anymore.

The second Minsk agreement basically said "Stop fighting and Ukraine gets full control of the seperatist areas after elections and a special territory status for the areas". After offering them the special status the seperatists just said no.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't matter that Russia's word can't be trusted.

Push Russia back to the border so that their invasion isn't rewarded, negotiate a ceasefire, then almost immediately make Ukraine a (defacto) NATO member, protect their airspace, no fly zone, arm them to the teeth.

The Russians are far better at keeping their word, when they know that they are weak, and that it benefits them.

[-] fhqwhgads@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Clearly this bully isn't going to stop trying to take your lunch money. If you continue trying to defend yourself it's just going to lead to more fights and you getting hurt more. If you just give up your lunch money peacefully then it'll be better for everybody!

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club -5 points 1 year ago

You can't just boil geopolitics down like that.

The longer this goes the more people die. We can't seem to stop Russia without plunging the world into more war....

[-] fhqwhgads@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

The longer you keep fighting back, the more you will keep being hit. We can't seem to stop the bully without you getting hurt more, so just be a good little boy and hand over your lunch money peacefully. And when the bully demands the contents of your backpack, hand that over to avoid more bloodshed. And when he demands your hat, hand that over too. You don't want to keep getting hurt, do you?