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submitted 1 year ago by Two9A@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Let's get the AMAs kicked off on Lemmy, shall we.

Almost ten years ago now, I wrote RFC 7168, "Hypertext Coffeepot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances" which extends HTCPCP to handle tea brewing. Both Coffeepot Control Protocol and the tea-brewing extension are joke Internet Standards, and were released on Apr 1st (1998 and 2014). You may be familiar with HTTP error 418, "I'm a teapot"; this comes from the 1998 standard.

I'm giving a talk on the history of HTTP and HTCPCP at the WeAreDevelopers World Congress in Berlin later this month, and I need an FAQ section; AMA about the Internet and HTTP. Let's try this out!

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[-] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 13 points 1 year ago

Has anyone implemented it in a physical device?

e.g. RFC3514 (an 'evil' flag you can set in malicious packets so a firewall knows to drop them) was actually used by a few people to see what would happen, with interesting results.

[-] Two9A@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

As it turns out, I could find no physical implementations of HTCPCP or the tea-brewing extension. The original protocol is somewhat incomplete, which is probably the main issue; also, any modern appliance would probably talk its own protocol encoded in JSON or similar.

While researching for the talk, I did find Hacked-Together Coffeepot Control Protocol which was a UMaryland hackathon project in 2016. They won the prize for "most technologies used in their tech stack", which is ...something.

[-] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 9 points 1 year ago

Oh, how I miss the days when hackathons would result in such things! In my country they are VC-pitch-a-thons. No actual things are built.

“most technologies used in their tech stack” sounds like a lot of fun to implement!

It's true though, if I designed an IoT coffeepot it would probably use something like JSON over MQTT or UDP. Although I would likely also connect it to a hardware RNG so its caffeination can exist as a quantum superposition of states until I drink the coffee. I hear that makes it taste better.

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