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Oh. Which battle did the US lose?
I said battlefield. Vietnam won the Vietnam War against the US. The goal was to prevent communist takeover. That didn't happen.
I don’t think people accept that America lost that war. They think it was a draw.
I thought it was common knowledge that they lost, to be honest.
Maybe among Millennials or GenZ, but I can assure you the Cold War was a propagandist wet dream.
It is, but some people are weird about it.
In US schools they teach it as the US just withdrawaling due to cost and domestic pressure because teaching it as a loss would really tarnish the whole "we never lose wars, USA #1!" narrative.
Can confirm this. My teacher started sweating when I asked if that means Vietnam won. Didn't get an answer just a subject change and the redneck kids in class eyeballing me funny. Sorry fuckos your daddies raged quit the field. That's a loss. Git gud scrub 😂
Also known as "losing." LOL
Most modern wars happen like this. Both sides commit until committing becomes untenable for one of the parties. That's pretty much the only path to victory for Ukraine, for instance.
Technically the domestic/international pressure is the actual reason for the loss. The US had the capability to rule the ashes, but domestic and international pressure caused the withdrawal.
I would consider Korea a draw. I wonder how much people conflate the two wars as they had similar objectives in the same world region.
Yeah, that’s probably the case. But not defining the 2 wars could be intentional.
If you fail to achieve your goal, you've lost.
Yes. I agree.
I mean, the US was kicked out, but I don't know if I'd call what happened to Vietnam "winning" either. It's more accurate to say they outlasted the Americans.
That’s a win 🏆
It's a rage quit.
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