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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The closest thing to the lie you wrote is the part where it says Putin demanded that NATO stop recognizing Ukraine as a sovereign country. So he's invading Ukraine because NATO didn't allow him to annex Ukraine Anschluss and annexation of Sudetenland style. And if you think that would help, remember that appeasing Putin over Georgia and, effectively, over Crimea and Donbass didn't do shit to stop his aggression.

Besides the document implies what was already obvious, which is that, before the war, Ukraine wasn't even going to be allowed into NATO any time soon, NATO countries just couldn't sign an agreement that would limit Ukraine's sovereignty.

[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago

What is the fascination with historically illiterate liberals trying to equate everything they don't like to Hitler?

Putin invaded Ukraine, because he doesn't want nukes 800 km from Moscow. If you don't understand this, you don't understand what is happening here.

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but you see, no country has declared war based on the threat of nukes.

Quarantines are, of course, different. As are special military operations. Of course.

[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Oh they haven't? India-Pakistan conflict did not happen then. The Cuban missile crisis didn't happen either. I guess the US hasn't been trying to kill Iran's nuclear program with drone bombings and assassinations either.

I'd say open a book, but I don't think you have the capacity to benefit from it.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Zephyreks is being sarcastic by highlighting the US's doublespeak that they employ to wage war without declaring war.

[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Oh all right. Sorry, too many liberal idiots running amuck in the comments. Got carried away.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Remember if you see the hexbear-shining you're among comrades

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

US policy at the time was that a quarantine was obviously not a blockade and thus not a declaration of war. Obviously.

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