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submitted 1 year ago by Two9A@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Let's get the AMAs kicked off on Lemmy, shall we.

Almost ten years ago now, I wrote RFC 7168, "Hypertext Coffeepot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances" which extends HTCPCP to handle tea brewing. Both Coffeepot Control Protocol and the tea-brewing extension are joke Internet Standards, and were released on Apr 1st (1998 and 2014). You may be familiar with HTTP error 418, "I'm a teapot"; this comes from the 1998 standard.

I'm giving a talk on the history of HTTP and HTCPCP at the WeAreDevelopers World Congress in Berlin later this month, and I need an FAQ section; AMA about the Internet and HTTP. Let's try this out!

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[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I’ve seen people refer to this as the “fuck off” of response codes, especially during that incident. How does that make you feel?

[-] Two9A@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It's not up to Mr Masinter or myself to police the usage of anything defined in the standard; if people feel like being assholes regarding the issuance of 418 errors, at least they're being whimsical assholes.

Could be worse; could be 200 with an error message inside, negating the entire point of error codes. I see that all the time.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, GraphQL has adopted this practice as a standard and it’s kind of sad.

[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

When I was fixing up a legacy API app at an old job, I realized they did exactly that. I cleared it with my boss and started fixing up our error codes - pretty much all 401, 403, and 422. This blew up an integration with another app that literally threw exceptions on those codes rather than handling them. I died inside as it was my first software dev job. My first rollback of a change as well.

this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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