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New files shed light on ExxonMobil’s efforts to undermine climate science
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I don't believe in hanging people, we should expropriate all but a basic living pensions and exile them to equatorial countries.
Fine fine, get the fuckin guillotine boys. Let's get some heads rolling.
Big fan of Sean Lock's Nazi Island reality show concept aren't you?
Everybody else is saying kill them and I think, somehow, that's letting them off easy. Let them all go and be the self-made, self sufficient men and ladies they have always wanted to be. They can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and show us once and for all we're just crap people by not only surviving but thriving under the conditions that they, more than anyone else, have made.
Seems like my proposal has balance and justice about it.
The risk of them making others think like them is pretty great.
The risk of them doing things to prolong their bloodline at the expense of others is also pretty good.
Better to remove the risk.
So they can go and exploit the previous victims of colonialism and current victims of capitalism directly in person? What did the people in equatorial countries do to deserve that?
They already have enough problems without the world illegally dumping yet more hazardous waste on them.
My feeling is that those people will have been forced to move into more temperate areas because of the harshness of climate change and so there's be a natural space for the 'wealth creators' to exploit.
I'm not sure if you've noticed how warmly people from equatorial countries are currently being received as refugees, but, let's just say that's a remarkably optimistic outlook.
It's a pessimistic outlook really, I am saying that the equatorial zones will be rendered largely uninhabitable. Like all refugees, those people would rather be able to stay in their homes but that's not going to be possible. The other thing is that once everybody from those regions have to move, out of necessity, they'll have the numbers to insist on relocation.
I understand what you were getting at, but I still think 'having the numbers to insist' is not something that will happen. 7000 people arrived on one of Italy's islands in the last 2 days seeking refuge. Kakuma refugee camp in Kenya was established in 1992 but today holds 200k people. On the other side of Kenya is Dadaab camp which holds 240k people right now. On average, people spend 10-15 years in those camps.
Sadly, the world will leave them to rot, as it always has. This will only be more true as people in richer countries begin to feel greater cost of living pressures - xenophobia is a typical response when people are angry that they have nothing.
Either way, I'm opposed to dumping billionaires as punishment. Exile is not really feasible like it used to be. I say seize assets and garnish future income, like they're someone trying to avoid paying child support.
Yeah, if there were proper consequences to them not paying up and not a toothless regulatory entity then I could go along with that, it's not got as much schadenfreude but it'll do.
7000 is a lot but we're talking about multiple countries being displaced here. If you're old enough to remember, there was that whole Palestinians in Jordan thing where they were actually planning a coup and very possibly had a chance of pulling it off and then the King of Jordan (who turned out to be a CIA asset because of course it was the CIA) expelled them all from the country in Black September and then they ended up in the Lebanon.