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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 1 year ago

It’s pretty gross. Made even grosser in the context of the Voice, where one of the things the No campaign has been doing is attempting to label the Yes campaign as the real racists. What utter bollocks.

[-] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago

Shit has become so unhinged. This is my first referendum so I'm sure how it compares. But the rhetoric just feels so vicious. The no campaign say the voice is divisive but it's their campaign that's divisive. They're importing some of vilest culture war tactics from the US.

[-] WendyMsGator@aus.social 13 points 1 year ago

@Nonameuser678 @Zagorath

Gay marriage referendum didn't get as vicious as this and that's saying a lot.

[-] spiffmeister@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

The conservatives have been getting worse over the past say, 10 years, Trump kind of accelerated things and that style of "who cares what the truth is" was exported from the US.

The right wing in general was always going to end up being like this though.

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Straight out of the US conservative playbook. An embarrassing look in Australia, and shows in the most obvious way that they are not acting in good faith.

[-] LineNoise@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Similarly, expect the networks and avenues of communication being built to be rolled into other areas as well. Trans rights, same sex marriage etc. will all be targets anew. Wouldn’t entirely be surprised if we started to see a push back against gun laws either.

We’ve had hints of this in the past but this is by far the most direct coupling between the US reactionary right and Australia’s.

I'm not sure same sex marriage will be much more than a fringe issue in Australia, for a long time at least. That plebiscite was a pretty strong indication of sentiment, and i think it'll only have grown stronger in favour, in the years since.

A few years back i heard a polling researcher say one of the strengths of the same sex marriage question was there's a high proprtion of family's who have a personal connection with someone who is non-binary, (is that the universal term in this context?). They thought that personal connection had a large effect on the type of response.

Connecting that, though, to the Voice question. Considering a population of ~3% and less interspersed throughout the population, and it seems that could be a weakness for the Yes side.

Murdoch created the "American" playbook :)

Murdochs a hack, always has been. The games they play have been played by others for centuries. Look up Yellow Journalism and Hearst

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