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I get the impression that the dems basically gambled everything on the offensive, they built it up in the media, scavenged whatever they could, and it was supposed to get some big results and then the media would run with it. Joe would win the election riding on having defeated Russia and saved the free world.

Instead it failed in the most spectacular way possible, and they don't really have any cards left to play now. They can't convince Russia to freeze the conflict until after the elections, and it's likely Russia will go on an offensive of their own come winter. So there could be a collapse in Ukraine happening as the election season heats up.

Seems like throwing Biden under the bus is the only move they have left in that situation. You all of a sudden discover that Biden has a lot of business dealings in Ukraine, that he may be compromised, and that he has a big conflict of interest running the war. Blame it all on him and hope you can distance the party from the debacle somehow.

The real question whom the dems will float as a replacement since they don't have a single candidate that's known or liked at this point. Perhaps they try to pump up Newsom?

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[-] Buchenstr@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Seems like throwing Biden under the bus is the only move they have left in that situation. You all of a sudden discover that Biden has a lot of business dealings in Ukraine, that he may be compromised, and that he has a big conflict of interest running the war. Blame it all on him and hope you can distance the party from the debacle somehow."

Oh no they've already hopped in with biden in the long run, way too much has been invested into this guy. He really is the perfect candidate for a MICIMATT puppet, he'll stay in as long as it takes, even if it harms long-term planning. Trump is also out of the picture, he'll not win or even run in the elections, that's guaranteed.

Ukraine is another dozzy for the establishment but ultimately they'll stick with ukraine until its invertible demise, from then I don't know what will happen, my hopeful guess is the yanks get their arse kicked out of the region for good, and peace will be signed. Ukraine will still be slave to western corporations and NGOs, but no military bases will be on its soil.

"The real question whom the dems will float as a replacement since they don’t have a single candidate that’s known or liked at this point. Perhaps they try to pump up Newsom?"

Good question, no one knows, even the establishment doesn't know, and I have a feeling in the future politicians wouldn't want to be presidents, since there's nothing but humiliation and defeat in store for the yanks, being the president will just make you the fall guy, since all power is behind the throne anyway, who even wants to be in the spotlight?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

While I agree that they're hugely invested in Biden, the problem is that his mental decline appears to be progressing very rapidly. If you look at clips of him today compared to even a year ago, the difference is striking. He just might not be physically fit to go through another election campaign. Then there's the whole impeachment inquiry which will almost certainly find some dirt, the collapse in Ukraine, the failing economy, and so on. It's going to be a perfect shit storm right as the election cycle heats up.

That said, it's certainly possible that they just run him anyways because they don't have anyone else. However, given that we are seeing more and more articles coming out in liberal outlets like WSJ and NYT, I think that's a strong indication that there is a powerful faction within the party that doesn't want him to run.

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