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Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) is getting some heat after video footage showed her in close contact with a male companion at a Beetlejuice musical from which she was booted after allegedly vaping in front of a pregnant woman. That companion is reportedly the owner of a pro-LGBT bar that has hosted a dra...

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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

That's the whole point.

Say whatever will get the conservative people angry.

For decades stirring up fear and hatred for gay and lesbian people was a sure vote winner for the right wing.

Once gay marriage and relationships became acceptable (relatively, I am not dismissing the hardships LGB people still face) in much of the west, they needed a new group to focus that hate to rile up their supporters and suddenly all the hateful shit was shifted to trans people.

Most that spout this hatred to get elected, do not believe it.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the most upsetting part of all this is that I cannot for the life of me decide who is more dangerous, but somehow I find the ones that the true believers less evil than these pieces of shit that are just doing it for power.

Don’t get me wrong, fuck the true believers too, but I can at least wrap my mind around why they suck. If you truly believe in your bones that abortion is baby murder I fully understand why you would want to stop it, it’s obviously not and believing so is fundamentally stupid just to be clear.

The Bobert’s of the world enable those people’s worst impulses because they don’t give a shit about the consequences so long as they benefit. And that’s just so much worse to me somehow, it’s the Henry Kissinger of it all

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The true believers are misguided fools. That doesn't make them any less contemptible, but the ones who do it for craven political reasons but don't actually believe it are far worse.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Both need each other. And I don’t think the line is as clear as we’d like it to be. It’s a lot easier to be a true believer when you get something out of it, even if you would’ve believed regardless. And it’s rare someone is so bluntly sociopathic that they’ll hurt people for power without convincing themselves they’re doing what they believe in. The more power this gets them the more they believe in it. The other alternative would be to convince yourself if you don’t someone else will, and that’s more the never trump to defeatedly campaigning for him folks. So what does she believe in? What’s most convenient without being too far from what she’s recently believed?

Personally I think she’s a true believer about guns for sure, maybe about taxes on businesses, but everything else no. Maybe she’s uncomfortable with queer people but not more than she’s uncomfortable with not getting some fresh dick after her divorce. She’s unlikely to go full Anita Bryant, but she’s definitely willing to do a ton of harm

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