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Help-wanted advertisements in New York will have to disclose proposed pay rates after a statewide salary transparency law goes into effect on Sunday, part of growing state and city efforts to give women and people of color a tool to advocate for equal pay for equal work.

Employers with at least four workers will be required to disclose salary ranges for any job advertised externally to the public or internally to workers interested in a promotion or transfer.

Pay transparency, supporters say, will prevent employers from offering some job candidates less or more money based on age, gender, race or other factors not related to their skills.

Advocates believe the change also could help underpaid workers realize they make less than people doing the same job.

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[-] 2Xtreme21@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago

Guaranteed employers will post ridiculous, not-at-all-helpful salary ranges to get around the law.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what they did in Colorado, but it backfired because every applicant expected the high end of the range. Now they just advertise jobs that aren't available in Colorado.

Pay transparency helps both employers and employees, but at the expense of employers who are trying to underpay their workers.

[-] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 year ago

Well good. Those companies deserve to fail if their business model can't support itself without abusing people.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I agree. But many companies are operating under the presumption that this will hurt them, even though they pay a fair wage. If your pay is competitive, you want transparency. If it isn't, you're running an unsustainable business.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah we really need more states - or better yet the federal government - to pass these laws. For now, you're just going to see job postings say "no applicants from New York or Colorado."

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

At least you can quickly identify the employers with the shitty hiring practices. There are a lot of jobs out there.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

And Washington and California.

So they just excluded 50mil americans or so, many of them in high demand fields.

Im not sure that's going to work out for them.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And now you know who not to work for. No one fucking around with your salary before the first interview is going to be a better person come later.

[-] thelastknowngod@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago

I interviewed at a place a few weeks ago. I asked the recruiter what the salary band was. I told her I expected to be in the top 10-15% of that range.

"Well we don't really like to hire someone at that high of a rate."

Thanks for waving the red flag. Good luck to you. Talk to you never.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then people will avoid applying, and instead apply to the similair job without a bullshit range. The problem is self correcting.

This law is already in effect in Colorado/Washington/etc. Pull up an advert for seattle jobs on indeed and you'll see that they list a large band, but then a "likely salary" point. Its clear, easy and sets expectations well.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

They have been doing that, but it's in the law (at least in CO) that that's still a violation, so we can report companies that say shit like $30k-$500k. If they can't demonstrate that someone in that position could feasibly make the high end, that range is still illegal.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Which is fine since it tells you so much already. If they say nothing at least it is possible it is an oversight. Someone forgot to click the right box. If they post a crazy range you know that they actively went out of their way to lie to you.

[-] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

No the ranges help, you just are supposed to assume the low end if minority or woman. 🙄

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