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Bethesda's latest can't help but feel shallow by comparison.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lost me at "Disco Elysium had arrived and absolutely blown the doors off the RPG genre."

I've never played a more restrictive game with worse dialog choices.

a) Can't tell if brain damaged.
b) Can't tell if drunk.
c) Can't tell if high.
d) Can't tell if stupid.

No good choices. Thank god Steam let me refund it.

Looked pretty though!

[-] Dangdoggo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The ambiguity of dialogue choices evens out as Harry recovers from his hangover but never completely goes away which honestly is part of the magic for me. Never being 100 percent certain what he's gonna do and sort of trying to nudge him along in the right direction is the game. But it's not a traditional RPG and nowhere near as deep mechanicall as BG3. It's just really good in it's own way. I also had a lot of interest in the politics of the game and a personal battle with drugs and alcohol in my life so it may have resonated more with me as well.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

I mean. Disco Elysium is only an RPG in the sense that you get to choose which version of Harry you play. It's not a blank slate situation where you can be whatever you want, you're always just Harry. And it is barely even a game, at the end of the day. It's a novel pretending to be a game.

In terms of RPG design, though, the one thing it truly did put into the forefront was the "fail-forward" ideas present in many interactions, which is something more games should take inspiration from.

Making failure interesting makes the story much more engaging regardless of your choices and your luck by discouraging save scumming and instead letting you feel good about rolling with whatever outcome happens.

[-] TheCrispyDud@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like I should go back and play it, but I was defeated by the ceiling fan at the start of the game and decided "Eh I'll comeback later."

[-] muse@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Turn the ceiling fan off first

[-] TheCrispyDud@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I believe it was the lights on it that did me in.

[-] Hairyblue@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

LOL, I have never heard of Disco Elysium. Must not be my type of game.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

If you're interested in politics, existentialism, the human condition, coping with depression, addiction, trauma and loss and want to read a novel about these themes told through the story-telling medium of an isometric RPG then it is the game for you.

Despite claiming to be an "isometric CRPG detective game about solving a murder mystery" on its About page Disco Elysium is actually none of those things at the end of the day, and if those things are what you want you'll probably end up disappointed.

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