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Serious question. Do the tories over there have a cult like thing going on like our MAGA types here?
ETA: I'm in the US.
Not as such
We just have a lot of selfish, stupid old people.
You just described most of the MAGA crowd.
No, our lot are significantly more boring. Think Hot Fuzz, seriously. It's that type of "ooo-er not in our village!!!" NIMBY stuck in their way type of folk.
Exactly. I'm a dual national. The problem here in the UK is Middle England and other fuddy-duddies. They're myopic more than conspiratorial, although immigration is an area where they can sometimes venture into fantasy. The MAGA cult in the US is thoroughly unhinged.
Boris was trying to do that. However getting caught partying while people weren't allowed out of their homes and funerals were restricted to about 4 people made a lot of people realise how much of cunt he was.
The two prime ministers since, very much no.
It's not really equivalent. The USA has a significantly higher level of religious indoctrination/followers than the rest of the developed world, so it was easy for conservatism to wrap itself around the cross and achieve the devoted, religious cult-like brainwashing of MAGA. That level of political sports team fandom doesn't win elections in other developed economies, where the buying and wearing of political merch is ridiculous to the vast majority of voters, and even the most diehard supporters really only wear it to political events or in the weeks immediately surrounding a vote.
With that said, the mental illness of conservatism is very strong in the UK – they've held a majority in federal government for well over a decade, have similar regressive economic policies, have spearheaded a relatively similar level of damage to quality of life and standard of living, and use very similar psychological warfare tactics (blaming all the nations problems on the weakest and most vulnerable of society, political opposition, etc)... They just walk a much finer line in what what they can publicly get away with.
Boris Johnson did. The party got rid of him when the casual Tory enjoyers turned against him after he held drunked piss-ups during COVID lockdown when people couldn't even see their dying relatives in hospital.
Since then their ratings have gone from bad to worse. Johnson was a clown but popular because he'd been on telly and people saw him as a harmless buffoon.
The next election will be a massacre and I can't wait.
there's a lot of culture war stuff, they generally don't vocally support the Tories but maga don't really support the gop only trump and anything that isn't 'woke' - this sort of move is i presume designed as a nod to those alex jones types that think climate change is just an excuse to install a one world government, exactly the people who voted us out of the EU because of some vague notion of sovereignty.