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[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I wish. That seat and the structure of the Security Council is in the UN's charter. You need a new UN to get rid of Russia and put the correct China back in place.

[-] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 7 points 1 year ago

The UN has not resolved that the Russian Federation is the Soviet Union w.r.t. veto powers. It's just been assumed. For the PRC there was an actual vote.

Ukraine legally has just as much of a right to the Soviet Union veto.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The Russian Federation is a direct successor state; the PRC was a much murkier issue at the time.

[-] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think the RF can count as a direct successor state when Ukraine was also a member of the USSR.

You mean West Taiwan or the real Taiwan?

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

What exactly do you think is going to happen if the rest of the UN decides to break the UN charter? Is Russia going to sue?

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, no. There is no such thing as international law as there is no superior power to forcibly require compliance. However your statement and the argument within fails fatally at a fundamental level as you simultaneously acknowledge the lack of a formal framework of hierarchy while appealing for that absent hierarchy to act.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

There is no formal framework, it's simply an exercise in power, and the anti-Russia nations hold enough power to redefine how they act with respect to Russia (i.e., dismissing them from the Security Council or simply ignoring their attempts to veto). Just because the rules are not naturally enduring has no bearing on their ability to have an impact while the majority powers support them.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

I never understood the idea of allowing non democracies in a democratic organization.

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