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Zelensky, in UN showdown, says strip ‘criminal’ Russia of veto power (ptv-news.com.pk)

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[-] severien@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Those vetoes existed before most of these countries had nukes.

[-] Novman@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly, vetoes are from countries that have won wwii. Other countries cannot build nuclear weapons ( and if they do so they are defined rogue states )

[-] squirrel@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The general idea was the same though. An international organization is useless unless all the great powers are voluntary participants. But the great powers won't participate in a organization that works against their interests. Therefore, the organization needs to kowtow to the interests of all the great powers.

The only thing about that that's changed from 1945 to 2023 is the criteria for being a "great power". Then, it meant being a winner of WW2. Now, it means having a large nuclear arsenal. The fact that there's a very strong correlation there is of course not a coincidence.

[-] severien@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only thing about that that’s changed from 1945 to 2023 is the criteria for being a “great power”. Then, it meant being a winner of WW2. Now, it means having a large nuclear arsenal.

No, the criteria didn't change, it's still the original set of countries with the permanent seat and veto power. It's also unlikely to change.

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