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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I understand the emotional reaction people are giving me. It's sad when someone leaves us.

He was wading... he could have walked back at any time, with no issue. Individuals from the shore who go out to him could get involved in a struggle and drown, so I understand why first responders didn't wade out with rescue line like they would with someone trapped in a flood.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago

He was wading... he could have walked back at any time, with no issue.

Spoken like someone who's never helped anyone during a mental health crisis.

Individuals from the shore who go out to him could get involved in a struggle and drown

That is the same exact risk that anyone trying to prevent a drowning faces. Anyone with basic water rescue training knows that they have to expect to struggle with the person they are rescuing.

I understand why first responders didn't wade out with rescue line like they would with someone trapped in a flood.

Why are we forced to pay for these people's jobs, if there's no consequence of them not doing their jobs? If you don't want a job that forces you to endanger your health for the sake of others......don't become a fist responder.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

That is the same exact risk that anyone trying to prevent a drowning faces.

You're negating the fact that non-suicidal people being rescued will not actively try to harm you or prevent their own rescue once the panic subsides. Many people in this thread do not understand the risk a rescuer would face in this situation. Your first duty is ALWAYS to your own safety so that, at minimum, you don't compound the problem.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago

You're negating the fact that non-suicidal people being rescued will not actively try to harm you or prevent their own rescue once the panic subsides

I'm guessing you have zero experience or training on this subject? Drowning people usually don't stop panicking until they loose consciousness, or are back on land and have stopped hyperventilating. You literally just put them in a headlock and something to grab at that isn't you.

You are also conflating suicidal behavior with homicidal behavior, just because someone is having a mental health crisis doesn't mean they are inherently violent.

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