I agree that battery tech needs to be better. We also need to put in the work now to improve the grid so that when there's wide scale adoption, the grid won't collapse under the strain.

For the most part it's a transit issue.... we simply cannot move that many watts of power.

For the rest of it, and hybrids versus full electric vs bikes vs walking, that's a much larger discussion, since not everyone will be able to adopt something more green than a highly efficient vehicle (whether hybrid or EV or otherwise)...

My main point is that they'll argue dumb crap like manufacturing, that causes so much pollution, and say it in a way that almost seems like they think that ICE cars are better for that, somehow?

It's like, we know it's not "carbon neutral" or whatever.... it's just carbon massively reduced and that's the point Carl.