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Think "you wake up in the woods naked," Dr. Stone-style tech reset. How could humans acquire a 1-gram weight, a centimeter ruler, an HH:MM:SS timekeeping device, etc. starting with natural resources?

My best guess was something involving calibrating a mercury thermometer (after spending years developing glassblowing and finding mercury, lol) using boiling water at sea level to mark 100 ° C and then maybe Fahrenheit's dumb ice ammonium chloride brine to mark -17.7778 ° C, then figuring out how far apart they should be in millimeters on the thermometer (er, somehow). I can already think of several confounding variables with that though, most notably atmospheric pressure.

I feel like the most important thing to get would be a length measurement since you can then get a 1 gram mass from a cubic centimeter of distilled water.

That's as far as I got with this thought experiment before deciding to ask the internet. I actually asked on Reddit a while back but never got any responses.

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[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

We're not on a space ship though. We're on Earth, so what happens on this planet matters. You may care more about not having leap years, but the majority of us care about knowing approximately what the weather will look like at a given point in time and how much sunlight to expect, since those things actually affect our daily lives, whereas an extra day in a given month does not.

[-] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What about when in the future if we needed to, say, sync time between here and mars, it would make it easier if we had some "frame of reference" outside of the sun maybe. There would basically just need to be a slight redefinition of what a day is, to account for the extra quarter of a day each year, its only a minute each day, ~86,460 seconds in a day instead of 86,400. Not exactly gonna throw the weather/sun off, no?

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

You can come up with new timekeeping systems when you need them. It's not like we can't convert between them.

~86,460 seconds in a day instead of 86,400.

Then two years later, the sun will be at its peak at midnight.

[-] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I guess thats true, but in the Stone age they can just deal with that lol

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

oh i know the answer. Since a mars day is about 15 minutes longer and out rover there are solar powered it was important that the human operators of them knew what time it was on mars. Nasa's answer, make a watch that runs about 2% slower. that git the mars watch an extra 15 minutes and so it syncs to the martian sun.

[-] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Figured there would be an answer like this, thanks!

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