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[-] downpunxx@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I still vividly remember watching the Chairman of The Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Miley personally escorting Donald Trump through peaceful protesters being beaten and gassed to a Church Trump had never been to, to hold up a bible Trump had never read. Don't try selling me Mark fucking Miley, that fucking fascist enabler can go straight to hell.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dumbest take of the day award goes to you.

Inform yourself and you might realize Milley was one of the only people keeping us from going completely off the rails. Trump fooled him once and not again.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah cuz if there's one place the trump administration didn't go it is off the rails.???

What timeline are u living in??

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

From everything reported about the absolute dumpster fire that the Trump white house was, it actually could have been a lot worse. There were a ton of people that spent basically their entire time reigning Trump in, like the aids that would bury things at the bottom of Trumps piles of desk papers because they knew he would get tired and lose interest before he got to them. There were plenty of people that went along with and helped Trump along, but even among them there were some that tried to keep Trump in check because they knew that left to his own devices things would be much worse, and it's hard to find profit when everything is a smoking crater covered in ash. While there weren't many true innocents left at the end of Trumps term in office, not everyone was as bad as Trump was. Many of them were the usual run of the mill corruption that's the norm in politics, instead of the particularly corrosive authoritarian flavor that Trump brought with him.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It is terrifying to think of what more harm could have happened if it weren't for the daily small heroic actions by these people.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Lol it could have been worse? Barely.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

Did we nuke anyone? Did the transfer of power not occur? That's what I mean and it should be quite obvious to anyone not looking for a fight.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

He saluted north Korean generals and set back Middle East policy indefinitely. And yes he even tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.

Wow you have a very narrow definition of off the rails.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

never thought i'd see someone ignore a problem with trump because it involves someone that had worked for the government during the trump administration. if that was your best example, something he may not even had realized was fully going on at the time, than wow. sure, let trump get away with something because you hate trump. the damn logical inconsistency is astounding. you hate him so much (which is fine, i think he's terrible too and should be in jail) that you've wrapped around and are now accidentally and implicitly defending him. its like you had a buffer overflow error.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

He does raise a good point though. Milley is less innocent bystander than just the latest Trump enabler that Trump has decided to sacrifice for no doubt failing some kind of perceived loyalty test. It's not logically inconsistent that they both suck, and it's probably worth reminding people that just because he's being attacked by Trump doesn't make him a good guy. All that said though, this is very blatantly stochastic terrorism on Trumps part.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, if that was the best example, all you have is someone doing their job. It's like complaining about a secret service agent protecting trump.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think the argument in this case is that he had a duty to either refuse to clear the protestors who were exercising their rights just to accommodate a last minute whim of Trump, or else a duty to step in when the capital police started using excessive force. That said, it is a somewhat weak argument. Generally though it's good to be somewhat critical of anyone that was in Trumps orbit at the time because there was a LOT of shady stuff going on at the time and it's not really clear who was or wasn't involved in any particular incident. Ultimately I still come back to what I said previously, just because Trump attacks someone, that doesn't mean they're a good person.

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