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I don’t understand how ActivityPub works that well and I haven’t used Threads so maybe I just doing get it.

But why would we have to worry about defederating Threads when it’s a Twitter clone? It doesn’t have communities and such so I would think it’s not compatible. We’re not federated with Mastodon instances right? This seems like something for Mastodon to worry about. How is a Lemmy instance refusing to federate with Threads relevant?

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[-] derf82@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Do we even know is Threads will federate at all? I figure meta is using activitypub simply because it’s cheaper and easier than coding their own, not because they intend to federate. Zuck wants private data so he can sell us ads and propaganda. Allowing people to follow from federated servers both denies him user data and the ability to push ads.

[-] 4z01235@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
  1. Why bother implementing a federated protocol if the intent is not to federate?
  2. Don't you think Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp has the experience to build a social media network without implementing ActivityPub? If federation is not a goal, why constrain yourself to building something that fits into that network?
[-] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They certainly could, but using something off the shelf saves development time and costs. Not only did someone else already do the base work, but they are fixing bugs and adding features as an ongoing task. And that all happens free, without Meta spending a dime. Meta only needs to add their customizations.

There's been plenty of speculation on why they want to federate, which is much less clear. It could be an attempt to get around EU antitrust (etc) laws. It could be an attempt to usurp Mastodon as the primary destination for Twitter refugees. It could be an attempt to slurp up the data from people that refuse to give it to Meta. But this is all just speculation, and it's unlikely that they will honestly reveal their reasoning.

[-] 4z01235@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Are they using an off the shelf ActivityPub implementation (if so, which?) or just implementing the protocol themselves? If it's the latter, which I expect it is, then implementing the protocol does not save development time or effort. It's just a set of specifications that they decide to conform to, rather than doing things some other way that may better suit their business goals.

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