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I am not saying that this is a good thing, but rather generated by AI than the real thing... Still fuckedup though.
...how did they train the model though?
Not (necessarily) with real naked children. With kids with clothes, adults with clothes, and naked adults.
It's not hard for the AI to transpose from a clothed child to a naked one, it's basically the same thing as switching your gender or making you look old
It's equally illegal, at least in my country.
Its still fucked up, because it starts with shit like this before moving into real world encounters. Over time the predators brain will see it as a new normal and will want to escalate.
Do you know this or do you think this? I'm relieved I don't have much insight into the mind of pedos... But couldn't it be the other way around too?
Access to pornography lowers incidence of sexual assault
So it very much looks to be the other way around
You’ll still go to jail, even if it is fake, even if it is a cartoon character.
US defaultism
The bart simpson porn case I think was UK.
Depends on the country. Some only criminalize depictions where children were exploited or harmed, so the cartoon stuff might get a pass despite being nasty. AI images I'd imagine it might be hard to prove they aren't real children and at that point might be treated like a robbery with a fake weapon or selling fake drugs (still chargeable as the real thing in most places)
The really sick aspect about this is that someone fed the AI with probably thousands of real child porn images to generate the fake ones.
That’s a hell of a leap and seems to be based in ignorance of the technology.
Your comment is based in ignorance of the technology. To have AI spit out images of a specific type, you also have to first feed it imagines of said type.
Again, you’re obviously ignorant of how this stuff actually works. That is simply not the case. Otherwise the training set would necessarily need to have images of every type that you hope to generate, an impossibility and which obviously isn’t the case - a very quick look at some of the crazier things people have generated disprove it. Training the model on nude and clothed images of adults and clothed images of children - as others have pointed out - would allow you to generate nude images of children. Could a model have been fine tuned with CSAM - yes; but it’s certainly not a given, and probably not necessary.
The stable diffusion sub has somewhat migrated over to the fediverse. You can find more information about how this stuff actually works beyond your introductory understanding of the concept there.