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Ukraine doesn’t really win anything. This is the third Army they are wasting. Too bad for the Ukrainian conscripts.
Bunch of Redditors hete getting stoked for this war to be down to the last Ukrainian.
I can't wait for the "blackout" to end so they can go back to huffing cope and baying for blood on r/ukraine again
You want russia to win? Not enough rape, castrating, stealing children, shelling appartment blocks for you?
the thing you bloodthirsty redditors don't understand is, the only correct position on this war is hoping it ends as soon as possible. I hope peace talks can be established, and we can all move past this with as few people as possible being shoved into the woodchipper. I am not pro russia, and I'm certainly not pro ukraine. The only correct position is anti war, anything less is baying for blood.
I have little trust that an "end" that leaves Russia occupying a large portion of Ukraine will last. It's a message to Russia's leadership that invasions will be rewarded. First Georgia, then Crimea, then Ukraine more broadly. Make some allegations about a Russian minority being persecuted and it's time to roll in the tanks! That's probably a large reason why Europe has been willing to arm Ukraine to the teeth: to send a message that the West is serious this time after wimping out in the case of Georgia and Crimea.
That's literally how we got here. Russia has been appeasing NATO as it deploys nuclear capabilities on it's border in many countries. This most recent move by NATO, under US direction, to establish nuclear capabilities on the Ukraine border could no longer be managed through appeasement and diplomacy. It's not like Russia hasn't tried, it's not like the US didn't know Ukraine was a red line for Russian national security. Russia has been appeasing US nuclear expansion for decades, and slowly demonstrating their willingness to fight back. Now they're in a proxy conflict where the US is pumping Ukraine full of the equipment Ukraine needs to send out soldiers. If the US hadn't done that, Ukraine would have far more people still alive and would have capitulated far earlier and begun negotiations. This is the same pattern we see every time the US pumps up a proxy, the proxy suffers the most.