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[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

they parade genocidal SS members in foreign governments, and so on.

The Waffen-SS guy is a Ukrainian-Canadian. He was ratlined to Canada after WW2 (along with a lot of other Ukrainian Nazis). There are a huge number of monuments to Nazi collaborators in Canada. Modern Ukraine's only involvement with this specific Nazi is Zelensky applauding for him and Canada bringing him on to honor Ukraine.

By that logic, Ukrainian history also would imply it as being communist, they have just as much a right to that legacy as Russia.

Thanks for saying this. WW2 Ukraine did more to fight Fascism than any nation other than Russia. Ukrainians who fought against Fascism outnumber the Nazi collaborators by over 10 to 1. Ukraine did more to defeat the Nazis than all the western allies combined. It's shameful how modern Ukraine and the entire west idolize the collaborators and spit in the face of those who fought against the Nazis.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to mention, the far right nazi affiliated parties have never gotten more than 3% of the vote.

Neo nazis and white supremacists and far right people are everywhere. To paint this entire conflict as “denazification” is literally just gobbling up party propaganda for the sake of making life more cut-and-dry for these peoples chosen political beliefs…which is exactly what they’re saying liberals are doing. Which—to be entirely fair—is true of liberals. But it’s also entirely true of these communists. Stupid team sports politics is stupid team sports politics.

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

if nazis are no problem in ukraine, how did they continure the civil war after the peace agreements? why did they ban all opposition parties? why make speaking russian illegal? why does every fucking photo of the AFU have a Nazi symbol in it? if nazis only have 3% of the vote, how do they have 15% of the seats in parliament? please do some basic research, i found all of this with a google search, its not even hidden very well.

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

https://press.un.org/en/2022/ga12483.doc.htm

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14823.doc.htm

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf

https://www.state.gov/reports/2018-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/ukraine/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/02/the-historian-whitewashing-ukraines-past-volodymyr-viatrovych/

https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/white-supremacists-other-extremists-respond-russian-invasion-ukraine

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda/

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2015-000653_EN.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

and for the record, if there was someone invading america to kill our nazis, i would support them also.

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

If Nazis hold top positions in the military and local governments and the national government continues to support and empower them, does it really matter if Nazi parties don't win elections? They get what they want anyways.

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