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Can't happen soon enough. Personally, I'd wish this would go much further and would allow every device to be flashable, with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.
There's also a certain irony that certain other places will go to bat for right to repair, and then turn around and say "Actually, I want to live in a walled garden.", not realizing that these are two sides of the same coin.
No. There are three main bullshit arguments being used by lobbyists actively making the world a worse place by fighting against this type of legislation.
All three are demonstrably used in hearings to convince legislators to not sign right to repair bills into law. And all three are absolute bullshit.
Replacing the brakes on your own car is not generally seen as introducing safety risks, so why would software be any different? The only things that actually make cars safe are competent drivers (wether flesh and bone, or digital) and proper manufacturing (so no malfunctioning during use).
There is a reason full self driving is not legal in most places worldwide, and likely won't be for a very long time. We've seen too many examples of software fuck ups and the legal responsibility in case of an accident is still a difficult part of the equation.
If we're able to integrate full infotainment systems into cars, and all kinds of AI gadgets for driving assistance. We should be able to make cars safer even if the software is user servicable.
No more gatekeeping bullshit.
Good point.
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TIL, thank you. Edit has been made.
Safety means extra-flashable.
Yeah man, can't wait to be sharing the road with people running custom ROMs on their 2 ton death machine. People are well known for being responsible in situations like that.
Quite frankly why the hell should I trust any publicly traded automaker to flash quality software?
Some of them have a track record for quantifying the cost of fixing an issue versus cost of settling lawsuits for that unfixed issue killing people.
Why would I trust an unaccountable rando with the same thing? One has a brand they need to uphold, and are liable for any kind of damages caused by their firmware.
When Joe Shmo crashes his soft-modded Honda Civic into a crowd of people, who's going to pay for the damage and lawsuits, etc.?
because roadways are so safe and free from accidents as is.
Right, exactly. We don't need more.
People do already. It's called tuning. I drove a car I custom tuned myself for 3 years...
Skill issue?
Beyond pure principle, flashing would be very useful when it comes to extending the lifecycle of the device beyond its original purpose. They're quite powerful and could be turned into a small server for example, similar to a Raspberry Pi. While lacking in ports, they do come with a battery, wifi+cellular and multiple cameras already built in.
Exactly. My Android phones as they slow, I swap to lineage OS and they're butter smooth and fast again. None of that planned obsolescence nonsense. Showing what a scam it is.
Good for people who decide to adopt Android or an open source OS after having an iPhone for a while. Would help get some more traction for alternatives too like Ubuntu Touch.
But if someone already owns an iPhone he should not need to buy another hardware option.
Not that he needs to justify what he does with his property to the manufacturer or randos on the internet.
I don't know why you're arguing against hardware and software freedom, but it might indicate that lemmy is not for you.
I would love an iPad Mini running android. Theres basically no high end android tablet in that size factor, but I won't use fucking IOS just to get my favo form factor. iOS is so neutered and unpractical in comparison to android. It's so weird that iOS became so popular to me... It's still stuck 10y ago in like 90% of its os design ideas.
Exactly!!! Most people don't get any of this and will instead claim android and iOS are practically the same thing
Having used both, and coming from a PC background, I have to say that I prefer the ease of getting under the hood on a PC, but on my phone and tablets, I don't have that same interest. Having used both iOS and Samsung Android tablets, I've got to say that I prefer the locked-down and uniform nature of the iOS devices. I also feel (emphasis on "feel") that my iPhone is more secure than my Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite. That said, fuck companies fighting against right-to-repair.
How much android experience do you have? If I felt like Apple devices had basic options and acceptable UI patterns I'd probably be on the same page. But alas, besides all the shady anti-standards and anti-repair things they do, the UI just literally feels extremely lacking to me. Like how the fuck is a universal back button not a thing? How come I have to struggle to do all the most basic shit? Why in the absolute fuck would you put your url bar at the fucking bottom of the screen??
No apple, fuck your gestures, I want a back and home button. It's bad enough that their shitty influence changed the defaults on android like that, but at least android has the option to revert to buttons. I have to use Apple devices for work and it is painful every single time. I literally cannot get used to some of the bonehead decisions. On android they typically either don't fuck up the UI royally, or they provide an option somewhere I can change to get back to the way I prefer things. Shouldn't be that hard to understand your users aren't always wrong...
What's the point in letting corporations act like they own things we already paid hundreds of dollars for?