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Watching a bunch of assholes "debate" (read: regurgitate canned talking points on cue) who are only going to lose the primary to a bigger asshole, who is even in the room, is kinda pointless. Especially when said bigger asshole already lost one general election and may well be on track to lose an other one., So, we could either watch losers who are losing to a loser; or, spend our time more productively. Like say, insulting said losers on the internet. Not a hard choice.
We need to be mindful that he can win the general election too. Lots of angry white racists out there and even more evangelicals.
No need to get white into it, racist is sufficient. Trump has plenty of black and Hispanic supporters. I don't know if they are all racists, but they are definitively assholes.
Yeah… he lost the general election, but only by a hair, and a LOT of work went into grabbing last minute votes.
The most dangerous thing you can do is be complacent.
We need to vote and we need to get others to vote.
Good, lets do it again next year.
While true, it's also true many states were close individually and, because of how our elections work, the election could have gone differently if about 43,000 votes in strategic places went the other way. I'd call that close.
Ya, while I was being flippant about it, I do agree that Trump has a very real chance of winning the General Election. I well remember the noise over polling in 2016 and Nate Silver's epic rant (he was right) about how the data should be looked at.
I'm curious to see how things shake out in the General Election this time around. And I wonder if Biden's Campaign will lean into Trump's criminal actions. In 2016, Trump's campaign pushed the "lock her up!" narrative over Clinton's email server. Now that we have clear evidence of Trump mishandling, hiding and attempting to hang onto clearly marked classified information (some of which is clearly SCI or NNPI), will we get choruses of "lock him up!"? At the same time, Trumpets seem to revel in Trump's crimes and prosecution as almost a badge of honor and/or an underdog fighting "the man". The irony of Trump pretty much being the definition of "the man" seems lost on his supporters. But hey, no one ever said politics has to make sense.
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i think the orangewad literally killed his margin by turning covid into a liberal fever dream.
Does this mean they eventually got "tired of winning"? Or are they now trying to win at losing too?
Demagogues always need to project an image of control, power and invincibility, reality be damned. I'd expect more of the same from them, and it's why it's important to keep pointing out their failures. By proving how weak and vulnerable they are, it helps to break the narrative they are trying to build. It's all about perception, facts are less important than belief. But, facts can be useful in shaping belief.
"Successful" failures. AKA disgraces of humanity.
I mean, I didn't watch it either, but If you are in a state that isn't purple, maybe you should be registered as a Republican to be part of the primary to pick the best of the worst. My state only has primary by party.
I'm in Virginia, which is pretty purple. That said, we have open primaries, but you are only allowed to vote in one. I have seriously considered voting in the Republican Primary for that reason. Biden is going to win any sort of Democratic Primary; so, not much point voting in the DNC Primary. However, I don't expect my vote would be impactful at all. Southwest Virginia has Trump's cock so far down it's collective throat it stopped being oral and started being anal. Even where I'm at, we have idiots whose yards have been decorated with Trump banners for over 7 years now. If he doesn't win the GOP Primary in Virginia, I'll be incredibly surprised.
If I do go out to vote in the GOP Primary, I'd probably have to pick Haley, just for the fun of seeing Republicans lining up behind a woman for a reason other than groping her. Also, I think it would be hilarious to see leftist pundits twist themselves in knots dealing with the GOP having a relatively younger woman and a minority as their candidate versus the old white guy. But, with her currently polling well behind DeSantis and a very, very distant third to Trump, I suspect that has basically zero chance of happening.
To be fair, didn't Trump poll horribly at first?
Kinda. Early in the 2016 election cycle, Jeb Bush was sort leading the pack. But, by October 2015 (to compare with the current cycle), Trump was pulling ahead in the GOP Primary and held onto the lead for the rest of the Primary. He was helped, a lot, by the large GOP Primary field and lack of a clear front runner. The political environment in 2016 also favored populism and Trump tapped into that very well.
Now, this could all get upended by the various criminal charges Trump faces. While the civil charges he is liable for are interesting, that's not a real impediment to his campaign. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up helping him, as he will spin it as a politically motivated attack on him by the left. But, should Trump end up behind bars during the run up to the Primary or General election, that's going to make campaigning a bit harder. It won't be impossible, and I'm not entirely confident it would prevent him from winning the Primary or the General Election. Though, I would think that the GOP might find a way to replace him on the General Election ballot, were he behind bars.