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Dianne Feinstein dies at 90
(abc7news.com)
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Wow...may she be remembered for all the amazing things she did. Not the way things ended.
And, politics being politics, this complicates many, many things.
I hope she's remembered for not retiring when she should have (she shouldn't have run for this last term, and honestly probably the term before that) and derailing judicial appointments. She should be remembered as a failure and a cautionary tale. I hope she inspires other old politicians to think about whether their legacies will be tarnished as well.
Didn't read the article I see.
Why do you say that? I know she accomplished a lot, but I'm tired of retroactively heaping praise on people when we can often learn from their failings. We can acknowledge what she did while still using her failings to hopefully learn a lesson.
Who heaps praise? I just see negatively shaped comments defining a person's life work. That's close to speaking ill of the dead.
Oh no, speaking ill of the dead! You wanna say some nice things about Hitler, too? She brought this on herself.
Karma. It's a thing.
No it's not, except on reddit.
I always thought it was a Buddhist concept.
Well yeah but it's not real in Buddhism either
Uh, you? This comment chain literally started with you saying "remember all the good she did, forget all the bad shit". No, we can remember the good she did, but we MUST remember the harm she caused, lest we let it keep happening.
So what? The dead don't hear and they have no feelings, I don't think they're too bothered really. There's no such thing as karma, either; Billionaires and politicians wouldn't die of old age if there was.
Close? Fuck that old bag! Glad she’s gone, wish death would have taken her a decade ago.
Fuck that. Remember her for the way she decided to end it. The greatness of a person can be directly measured by their ability (or inability in this case) to walk away from power.
Her decisions caused real harm over these last few years and it should not be forgotten nor forgiven. If we do that we endanger ourselves to repeat this process with every aging asshole in power
I feel like all politicians live long enough to become the villains or in some cases super villains.
Not true! Some retire to the private sector to become villains.
I like to remember Jimmy Carter sometimes. I wish more were like him.
He was pretty much the only exception I can think of. A rare breed of politician that seemed to actually have decent morals and actions.
Politicians see Carter as a cautionary tale as to what happens when you're a good person.
Pat Leahy never a villain
She was a selfish old woman who wouldn't let go of her power even as her body and mind failed her for years. She deserves to be remembered as the harmful, obstructive burden she was. Her seat was needed more than ever in the final years of her life and she clung to it like a leech. We've all suffered for her continued presence in the Senate. Good riddance.
The only reason there is power in her seat is the Seniority System. Whoever takes her place will have no power relative power, and will have to work their way up the ranks.
People talk about term limits, the easiest and most effective change would be to eliminate the Senate Comittee Seniority system.
Imagine being one of literally only 100 people in the entire nation who have your job and thinking you have no power. A new Senator doesn't have nearly as much power as a Senior Senator but they still have vastly more authority than anyone else. They have Power with a capital P.
You believe a freshman senator on Ways and Means, a committee of 29, welds a significant amount of influence verses Patty Murphy, Chairmain, who has been on Appropriations for 26 years?
I was referring to relative power within the Senate. How long do you think it will take for a freshman senator to gain the same amount of influence as Patty Murphy under the current system?
https://sfbayview.com/2019/04/its-true-as-san-francisco-mayor-dianne-feinstein-did-repeatedly-fly-a-confederate-flag-in-front-of-city-hall/
Not the only major screwup when she was mayor. She also read the Night Stalker profile and showed his sketch to the media, despite the fact that it was only shared on the condition that it be kept confidential, which likely lead to it taking longer to catch him.
The way things ended tarnish all the good shit did. That's what she'll be rightfully remembered for.
Her corpse is a better judiciary committee member then any Republican alive
Like raising a confederate flag in a bid to get all the racists to vote for her lmao