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A widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
For example, coconut bras and grass skirts?
You're missing the point. You can't both claim that grass skirts and coconut bras have nothing to do with Hawaiian culture, then immediately say its offensive to Hawaiian culture, because if they had nothing to do with Hawaiian culture, how can it be offensive to them?
You're statement that it has nothing to do with Hawaiian culture was the issue here.
I'm hardly missing your point, I just think it's ridiculous. Purporting that something is associated with another culture, even if untrue, can certainly be offensive. It's like watermelon and fried chicken for Black people. Would you claim that is inoffensive?
... because they're associated with Hawaiian culture?
'Associated with [by outsiders]' is a wholly different animal than 'part of [according to members]'. That's literally the point of the conversation we're having.
The logical follow-up question is, "who made you the arbiter of Hawaiian culture?" I propose that coconuts and grass skirts are very much associated with Hawaiian culture today. Just like tikka masala is associated with Indian culture, even though it was invented by a Brit, and tempura is associated with Japanese culture, even though it was invented by the Portuguese.
There isn't an authority on what is and is not associated with one's culture. That's highly subjective, and changes much over time. Eventually cultures adopt and relinquish all kinds of values, practises, and customs. It can happen intentionally, but usually it's quite by accident.
There's a very simple answer to your question that it seems like you're almost deliberately avoiding: native Hawaiians.
They're not a homogenous group, and there isn't a cultural leader. I know a Hawaiian girl who thinks coconuts and grass skirts are associated with Hawaiian culture. So I guess they are, then, by your standard.