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Taking bets now: How long before the Democrats lose their nerve and give Republicans what they want just to end the shutdown?
The House GOP voted down the funding bill the House GOP proposed: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4230386-house-conservatives-tank-gop-short-term-funding-bill/
They may need to make concessions to Democrats that they would otherwise not need to make to get this passed, despite having a majority of the House.
I'll be happy to be wrong. Surely this time it'll be different.
This feels like the only way forward, but that would mean Mccarthy would have to be bipartisan and I don't see that happening, just as much as I don't see the far right GOP conceding
They didn't last time.
Trump and the Senate Republicans caused the longest shutdown in history. They did it because Trump was having a temper tantrum over the fact that Democrats refuse to fund his idiotic border wall.
I don't see a wall. Do you?
No. It's because the Democrats held their ground.
It's not even the Dems, Republicans are doing this to themselves. Dems have the upper hand here.
After reading that again. Fuck, your probably right...
Would a border wall get Democrat votes? No. Probably not get some Republicans. If the Republicans presented a clean bill, then I think you could win your bet.
Democrats cave when Republicans shut down the government. Stop pretending the past 30 years didn't happen.
They didn't the last 4 that happened under Trump.
That's right. 4 government shutdowns happened under the orange turd.
They won't cave. They will watch them splinter into two camps and work with the moderate ones and get the senate one passed with a new speaker.
Democrats do not bite on poison pills. So far that's the only thing McCarthy has put on the floor and even his own caucus won't vote for them.