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Scroll back up to my earlier comment.
I said "typical use cases". Your examples aren't typical.
Also, why the fuck you cooking oil that hot in a nonstick?
Typical use case includes people forgetting a pan for a few minutes because these are used by human beings, not robots, or using it to stir fry (which requires high heat) because they coat fucking woks in that shit now.
Typical use cases doesn't mean forgetting a and leaving it to burn up and get fume fever. Because that has actually happened, but extremely rarely.
Even when you use them for their intended use, such as stir frying in a wok, they can reach temperatures that are normal for cooking but unsafe for Teflon. And it is extremely easy to forget a pan on the stove for a minute, and that should factor into whether or not a product is considered safe.
For example, pressure cookers have to have fail safe mechanisms, even though you could just as easily say anyone using it should just use it properly and they wouldn’t explode.