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California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Wednesday that aims to stop other states from prosecuting doctors and pharmacists who mail abortion pills to patients in places where the procedure is banned. California already has a law protecting doctors who provide abortions from out-of-state judgments.

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[-] philomory@lemm.ee 96 points 2 years ago

Also, more to the point, citizens who don’t want abortions can just… not ask for abortion pills. Like, that’s not that hard.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I'm pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I'm repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.

So:

I am pro-choice.

I get what you're saying, but unfortunately if you're looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it's the same as someone saying to you "citizens who don't want to murder can just... not murder people. Like, that's not that hard. We don't need laws against murdering people though"

Required reading: “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”

[-] tomatobeard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the preface, but the ending is exaggerated. Abortion does not equal murder. It causes no harm to society or others, unlike murder or guns. It would be more accurate to say it's like gay marriage. If you don't agree, don't get gay married.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You say it causes no harm to society but they'll argue it causes immense harm to God's plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It's a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn't abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it's going to get for their hypothetical children.

My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Birth rates are a much smaller problem for the future of the American economy than wealth inequality.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think you're zeroing in on an example when it was meant to be an overarching example.

But to continue with your argument: if the workers aren't being born, the class war will get seriously real, and that's the last thing those at the top of the wealth inequality pyramid want.

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