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submitted 1 year ago by Grappling7155@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

New federal clean fuel regulations, which take effect on Canada Day, are designed to cut pollution from vehicles. Although there won't be much of a change to pump prices across the country on July 1, experts say, there will be a noticeable increase several years down the road. (Kyle Bakx/CBC)

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[-] m9p909@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It's a good move. Canada isn't even close to hitting it's climate goals. The only way to actually hit 1.5C climate goals would be to tax carbon extremely heavily, resulting in a massive drop in quality of life. However if we and other countries don't pay that "tax", then we will pay massive interest over the next couple generations. It's a lose lose situation.

[-] AngryMulbear@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

I disagree. This legislation will just result in producers adding even more ethanol to gasoline, leading to more valuable farm land switching from food production to biofuels.

Canadians are struggling to feed themselves as it is, we don't need scarcity driving up costs even more.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Because of global warming there's going to be a lot of land throughout the world that will no longer be viable for agriculture.

If you're upset over the current blip in food prices caused by the temporary disruption in grain supply stemming from the conflict in Ukraine, then buckle up, it's gonna get a lot worse from here.

We will need to move agriculture to other parts of the world. That's going to mean food prices are going up no matter what we do.

Why are you concerned with having to open up new farmland in other parts of the world for ethanol, when we're going to have to move agriculture to other parts of the world either way? Seems like being upset over someone pissing in the ocean.

[-] AngryMulbear@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Because of global warming there’s going to be a lot of land throughout the world that will no longer be viable for agriculture.

When? Just the date please

If you’re upset over the current blip in food prices caused by the temporary disruption in grain supply stemming from the conflict in Ukraine, then buckle up, it’s gonna get a lot worse from here.

No, the current blip in food prices was caused by mass money printing from the Pandemic. It is not "temporary", food will never return to pre-war prices. Not that grain has anything to do with the hundreds of other products on the shelf experiencing the same increase.

Congrats on falling for propaganda

We will need to move agriculture to other parts of the world. That’s going to mean food prices are going up no matter what we do.

Again....when? Won't be in our lifetimes, but starvation is already happening today.

Why are you concerned with having to open up new farmland in other parts of the world for ethanol, when we’re going to have to move agriculture to other parts of the world either way?

Ah yes, great idea. Make the ethanol somewhere else in the world, and ruin it's carbon neutrality shipping it all the way back to Canada. Not gonna happen, local farm land will be converted to fuel production instead.

Seems like being upset over someone pissing in the ocean.

Ironic considering Canada's emissions are also a piss in the ocean.

TL;DR there are far better ways to reduce carbon emissions than attacking our food supply or putting Canadians through significant economic hardship. The fact these options are being outright ignored by our government makes one question what the true motive is here.

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