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U.S. to send widely banned cluster munitions to Ukraine
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this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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In this context I think it's fine. Russia has already been using cluster munitions on Ukrainians and I doubt the AFU will be as careless and cold in their use as the Ruzzians. Unexploded ordinance is a genuine concern, but the lands being fought for are already so heavily mined its almost a moot point. Just my 2¢
Not just that. The amount of minefields that Russia put is astonishingly large and one of the main reasons of why offensive is slow. The main objection of cluster munition is that some of it does not explode and becomes essentially a mine. But it is just a small addition to the existing mine fields, so...
Use the cluster bombs on the mine fields, win win.
Yeah, I'd obvious prefer cluster munitions not be used at all, but thanks to Russia that cat is already out of the bag and whether or not Ukraine starts using them they're already going to have a big UXO cleanup to deal with when this is over, and since it's their country I imagine they'll probably be a bit more judicious in their use and it's kind of their call to make if they want that on their plate.
If they start making moves on Russian soil with them, that's a little murkier ethically. There's definitely an element of "turnabout is fair play" involved but I wouldn't exactly have the warm-fuzzies about it.