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Pros and cons of federating with threads?
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this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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As I've heard Threads is not yet ActivityPub federation enabled- meta is going walled garden for the foreseeable future.
Benefits of federation would be:
Cons of federation would be:
Long story short, it’s a 1:15 pros/cons
Pretty much lol. Given Lemmy's current community situation there's really very little reason to ever federate with them.
I'm wondering if they will even decide to try to federate. They're bootstrapping threads with Instagram that already had 2+billion users. That's insanely big compared to the fediverse. What do they even benefit from enabling it?
They crush a potential rival in its infancy. That's literally all. It all reads to me as textbook embrace, extend, extinguish.
If the federated web were a company, they'd just buy them out if they got big enough. But it's not, so they can't, and that worries them. But they see the open part of open source as a vulnerability, so they put on a smile, pretend the game is 'if you can't beat them, join them' and then sabotage the protocol in a million ways from the inside while convincing users that your app is clearly the best way to experience the federated web.
Couldn't they just run another instance and not tell us the domain name and silently steal all our data anyway? I feel like there is no way to have data security when it is decentralized. All my Lemmy data is on hundreds of other servers already.
This much is true, I concede that. It's highly likely they're farming this very thread as we speak- the vacuum covers all, and Zuck has clearly been thinking about the fediverse for quite some time. However it's of limited use to feed the other points when they can't use the data to develop direct connections with their own internal users via direct interactions.
Also you doubleposted by accident.
I saw the double post and immediately deleted the second one. The one you replied to was the one I actually deleted, but it looks like the delete didn't federated to you. That's really scary actually if you can't guarantee that you can delete stuff on Lemmy. If I rant about something in the heat of the moment and say something I regret, I can't guarantee that I can remove it.
This is very thorough. Thank you!
Couldn't they just run another instance and not tell us the domain name and silently steal all our data anyway? I feel like there is no way to have data security when it is decentralized. All my Lemmy data is on hundreds of other servers already.