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It hurts my soul to see windows simps say the only reason they won't transition to linux is because 'GaMes!' Like every game i've played with proton on linux mint has run perfectly smooth for years now, even before the deckening. If you're willing to be cucked by microsoft because one or two games you play is a competative shooty that uses a garbage anticheat (cough rainbow6siege cough) even though every other game in your library works just fine, you deserve what you get.
I'm that guy.
Unfortunately, Siege and MW2 are the only two games that a large segment of my friend group plays.
And also no alternative for Visual Studio (especially WPF and Xamarin)
Thankfully both of those games are crossplay. Anything that requires anti cheat seems to have crossplay oddly enough so I just play those on my ps5 or Xbox series s. My Xbox is the only Windows based device I use. Haven't touched Windows 11 in months.
Good point, for most people at least.
Although for me specifically, with the kind of work I do, it's not really an option.
Jetbrains Rider
I do like rider, but I'm most comfortable building GUIs in WPF, and VS has a great drag-and-drop interface for that.
Unfortunately, I don't have free time like I used to, so learning a new framework that's cross platform like Avalonia has been slow.
What do you mean no alternative to VS? There are many IDEs on Linux. What does VS do that nothing else can?
It has a very good GUI for building WPF and Avalonia interfaces drag-and-drop style.
Although it's been a while since I used rider, maybe it has it too. I should probably check it out again.
But my main reason for staying on windows is still those damn anticheat software for some games my friend group play.
To be fair though, windows is doing everything in its power to push me towards dual booting again.
I just have separate PCs but similar situation, and I've been a linux sysadmin for over a decade. A lot of games work fine on linux, but when you get in to things like specialty peripherals and mods/addons things can get messy. Desktop running Windows Enterprise (with so much disabled) for audio production and games, laptop running debain for everything else, and all my servers are debian or raspberry pi devices.
I feel like a lot of people don't know you can, or know how to, disable most of the shitty Windows features and addons. There's all kinds of automated scripts for it like "Reclaim Windows" but you can basically turn a lot of this stuff off through powershell. Most people are running Windows like a user and not like an admin.
Yeah, windows is still the best (or at least the most compatible) for games, but all my servers use linux too. I played around with windows server a bit, but it's no contest.
Thankfully, with WSL you can do a lot (but not all) of the stuff I love linux for.
I mean I even automated the backup of my windows PC with WSL, and it works great.
GUI builder.
Games and audio production. I'm the only one in my linux sysadmin group that still keeps a Windows SSD for booting games and for media creation, I'm also the only one who doesn't suddenly have games break because an update had conflicting library dependencies or something, or a mod broke the game. I also don't have to spend hours combing through debug logs to find out why the game and mods that worked for years suddenly crashes on launch. So instead I can sit there and game while they fix their linux games. We only really have a lan party once a year so Windows SSD + Steam and old game installers makes it thoughtless. Someone running linux for their games inevitably has had to sit out the lan party, or spends the whole time trying to get whatever game working, that for some reason only isn't working for them and works for everyone else.
Basically linux is quite good for gaming, enough that linux bros can feel assured in superiority, however in practice every time I've done a LAN with 10-20 linux sysadmins and we all try to use linux, it's never gone smoothly for everyone. I actually maintain my previous laptops as Windows machines for this case, just so we can help a linux gamer get in on the games when their games break.
The main challenge with linux compatibility, is the variety and inconsistency of linux systems, it's strength can be it's weakness. It used to be Windows GPU drivers that were the bane of gamers back in the 00s-early10s, now it's trying to coax a meaningful error log out of a game that just crashes for no apparent reason on linux out of the blue.
Games, music, photography are all still legitimate use cases.
I pretty much exclusively play anticheat games and have 0 interest in single player games. I’d quit gaming overall because I’m simply not interested in playing the type of games that end up working on Linux.
Im kind of that guy. I use Windows solely to run Arma 3 and have it up to date.
I run Arma 3 on Mint just fine.
Isnt Arma 3 Linux on a different game version then Arma 3 Windows?
Not sure, was tunning the windows version through proton.
Cope harder, if I want to play a game, I only need to install it and play.
Oof someones salty! Enjoy your next forced windows update and being constantly spied on. But hey, at least you can mindlessly install and play all teh games without being inconvenienced.
Imagine being so deep in the bullshit, that a good user experience is seen as bad.