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I'm always a bit suspicious when a Journalist is killed like this. Who were those who may have been threatened by what he published?
The people in these comments talking like this is "just another day in a US city" have no fucking idea what they're talking about. This is not the kind of violence that randomly happens. This person was clearly targeted.
They also fail to grasp the concept of "per capita" crime/murder statistics.
no, targeting journalists to suppress left wing elements is as american as apple pie and as common as corn syrup
Per capita? Really? Try per capita gun murders around the world and see what countries the US keeps company with. I mean, your argument is basically because there are lots of people, being shot is NBD because the odds are low because there are lots of people?
And yeah, again, compared to other places this is the kind of violence that happens in the US.
However, this was a targeted shooting. A deliberate murder. That does tend to be a more rare occurrence, but it’s dishonest to break it out and treat it separately from the overall use of crime related gun use in the US.
What? Way to miss the point entirely. Not only that, but you've completely misrepresented my argument.
First: yes, this was clearly a targeted shooting, so this discussion doesn't really apply to this specific case. However...
I haven't said anything was no big deal, just pointing out basic statistics. Using the concept of "per capita," when discussing phenomena among very large groups of people, is one of the (if not the) only ways to glean any valuable information from the data.
1,000 gun crimes seems like a lot in a town of 23,000 people. 1,000 gun crimes in a city of 2,000,000 people? Not so much... (obviously these numbers were made up to make a point)
No, I didn’t miss your point. I understand perfectly what you meant. However, you did miss my pointing out of your use of statistics via per capita as an argument to water down risk against the broader view of the US gun crime rate vs the rest of the world to point out that yes, Indeed, this is a US problem.
If I implied anywhere that I thought it wasn't a US problem, that was not my intention at all. Clearly it is.
Per capita rates of gun violence in the United States are almost 90 times higher than the United Kingdom, for instance.
Yes. This is a uniquely American problem. I am agreeing with you.
Actually, I was agreeing with you. I hadn't posted anything prior, so you couldn't have been agreeing or disagreeing with me. I think you confused me for the other person. 😀
"A targeted shooting a deliberate murder.... that does tend to be more rare"
Accidental fatal shootings are well known to exceed intentional ones.
It's rare to get an article on individual targeted killings, but they do in fact comprise the majority of killings. So no, this is not a rare form of killing at all, it's simply being reported because it's another journalist.
Bigots a.k.a conservatives
Wouldn't surprise me one bit. There's an epidemic of violence going through the conservative movement right now. They've been growing more and more violent. See Jan 6. and all the terrorist attacks/shootings coming from their side lately.
I love the irony of the bigotry in your comment
Someone needs to read more about the Paradox of Tolerance.
Yes, not tolerating intolerance is the same as advocating for the destruction of people based on race. Grow up and quit sucking on Donnie's toes.
you have the politics of a fucking lizard
I will be bigoted against bigots. Politics isn't some purity fetish you fucking suburbanite.
It is a bit on the nose.
https://www.inquirer.com/crime/josh-kruger-killed-point-breeze-shooting-philadelphia-journalist-20231002.html
Or who would have been threatened by what would have been published, should he still be alive?
This is why journalists should invest in a dead man's switch that will automatically publish stuff I the journalists cannot check in
One last fuck you from the grave
Same here.
I have an uncle who was killed due to an article he was doing research for. Sadly, he ended up in a coma and then someone came back to finish the job. It had a large impact on my mother and her siblings, though it was a few years before I was born. I had always wondered how much of it was an exaggeration until a couple years ago when we found an article saying basically the same things the aunts and uncles always had.
Is it because they interviewed the aunts and uncles as their primary source?
That is a great idea, but no. He was living in another part of the country from them at the time of the initial attack. The article was written in that area.