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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 41 points 1 year ago

Silly nonsense. Just cause I said I downloaded something isn't proof I did it. If I said I murdered someone you still have to proof I did it especially if there is no god damn body. In other words: they have to link my comments to a download I did via vpn years ago. Yeah, good luck losers.

[-] TheYang@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I... don't think that's true.

I'd expect to get convicted if I make a (reasonable) confession of murdering someone who vanished, even if there is no single other bit of evidence.

[-] Kill_John_Lennon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Not if you made that confession outside of any prosecution process and then withdrew it saying you were just making shit up, I wouldn't think.

[-] TheYang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I would expect that to be true as well.
For some reason I can't really explain anymore, I was thinking of a situation where the confession is made, and reiterated at every step in the prosecutorial process, without any other evidence (for or against) being available for the process.

[-] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

You won't. It happens all the time. Youd be amazed how many people try to claim credit for crimes they didn't commit.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Right, if you go to the police and confess to the murder of someone who vanished you are going to be in trouble. But we are talking about some reddit comments "confessing" to downloading something illegally. I could have been more specific with the example though.

[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Actually no. Pretending to have committed a crime is a crime itself. At least here in Germany.

Also: saying you committed a crime is basically the same as a confession and can definitely be used against you

[-] jon@lemmy.tf 4 points 1 year ago

The lawsuit does not involve Germany in the slightest

[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it could still have an Impact on Germany since the copyright law is pretty similar

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Also keep in mind that at least in Germany the act of just downloading something is not illegal. Only the uploading/seeding of content is. So just admitting to having downloaded something is not admitting to a crime at all.

[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, downloading is illegal too. It's just the uploading/seeding that gets actively enforced since it's a more serious crime

[-] void_wanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Pretending to have committed a crime is a crime itself

Gotta listen to some Götz Widmann haha.

[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they have no proof prior, they will absolutely wreck you with a comment like that linked to an account you own. That's a confession, which you made, it is idiotic as you gained nothing admitting to it.

Only because many people don't care, doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

A comment on social media is not a confession.

[-] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Also it's no proof that any piracy took place. It would be a different thing altogether if they already had evidence and you confessed to it, but as is, not everything said on the internet is true. Here, my "confession"

I broke into Area 51 on September 5th 1997 at 07:43 AM and I took photos of a top secret spy satellite program meant to track UFOs.

The fact I said that in a comment on Lemmy doesn't make it true.

[-] Batman@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

...Did you see any alien friends during your raid?

[-] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Depends. Are you with the US gov?

[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Bold statement, i can find countless cases where a confession posted on social media was used as evidence.

[-] Warped@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I do know the law. You should try walking into a police station and saying, 'I murdered someone.I'm just talking shit, there is no corpse or murder, just saying this for shits and giggles.' then see what happens.

Seriously, maybe it's just me, I prefer a quiet life. I don't want the added stress of a corporation or lawyer threatening me, even if it is going to lead nowhere.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Alright buddy, that's a horrendous example. You're comparing MURDER to downloading End Game...

Here's the real comp, go into the police station with a grin and say I just littered 3 towns away in a park, I threw a candy wrapper on the floor, it even has my fingerprint! But you'll never catch me coppers!

They'd shrug and ask you to leave. No-one is starting a manhunt.

[-] blomkalsgratin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They would never get a conviction on the statement alone though. What it probably would do, is lead to them turning over every stone in your life to find proof. They'd do that because it's enough to arouse suspicion but not enough to get you convicted in any way.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Bit of a leap there. I'm talking about confessing to murdering someone on reddit for instance cause that is what we are talking about: comments made years ago on reddit. Yeah, sure, maybe someone will tell the cops and they will have to investigate you based on your comment about murdering someone, but then what? Sure, it will have consequences for me, but they cannot convict me based of a single comment and nothing else. How the hell is that going to hold up in any court?
And now think back on what we are actually talking about: comments admitting to having illegally downloaded some content. I would assume they won't even try to start investigating that. Like how on earth are you going to get proof of that?

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