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submitted 1 year ago by voxel@infosec.exchange to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Say (an encrypted) hello to a more private internet.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/encrypted-hello/

Nothing big, but kinda interesting. I'm excited to see how this will go ๐Ÿ‘€

#privacy #mozilla #firefox @privacy

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[-] JCpac@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago

I don't get it... How does this protect anything? If we want our packets to reach a web server, we need to write the server's IP address on them. If a snooper has the IP, can't they just lookup the domain name from a DNS server? Or is that not a service DNS provides?

If the IP address is encrypted, how will the routers know where to send the packets? Only solution I can think of would be onion routing... Am I wrong??

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 28 points 1 year ago

An IP address is no longer associated with just one website/domain name. There could be thousands of websites running on a single IP address.

As is, anyone can currently look at your encrypted traffic and see in plain text which site you're surfing to. So this proposal is long overdue.

[-] Bageler@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

A government will still subpoena the destination IP for the information if they want it.

ECH protects against warrantless monitoring and other non-government bad actors and I'm happy to see it implemented. If there hasn't been a strong enough privacy argument to use Firefox for someone to date, this is a big one.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

A government will still subpoena the destination IP for the information if they want it.

Sure, but they probably won't do that every day, so for the general public this is an improvement.

[-] library_napper 2 points 1 year ago

And also they cant get the info if the logs are deleted

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

They can't get info that has been deleted yes, but I think it might be possible to coerce the company into starting to collect logs, legally or not.

[-] Bageler@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
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