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I mean, definitionally Hamas is the aggressor here. The force Israel has traditionally employed in response is nowhere near proportional or responsible, but they have rarely been the inciter in large-scale armed conflicts.
Bombast and hyperbole don't win you arguments or minds on topics like this. Let the atrocities of Israel's violent apartheid speak for themselves, free of embellishment.
So what you're saying is Israel has killed over 4000 Palestinians this decade, including 200 this year prior to this attack, and Palestine launches a counter-attack that leaves 40 dead, and because Palestine retaliated to initial attacks they are now the aggressor "definitionally"? Is the only way to not be labeled the aggressor to soak up every single death at the hands of apartheid in stride?
If you take 10 punches and then throw 1, you are not the aggressor and for anyone to suggest such is for them to side with the aggressor.
Not to mention, I'm having a hard time imagining someone saying "[Israel has] rarely been the inciter in large-scale armed conflicts" while simultaneously looking at the map of Israel carving up the Palestinian homeland to shreds.
When a fight stops and then you lob rockets at civilians years later, that’s a new conflict. This isn’t difficult to put together.
Ah yes, the famously stopped Israel/Palestine conflict. You're right, I forgot that they had declared a ceasefire some time after the last Israeli raid on Palestine "years" ago, back in July 2023, where they sent thousands of troops, drones, and missiles into Jenin.
Palestine has been occupied since how long? Israeli aggression never ended.
Did you know Israel is blockading Gaza?
I don't really see how that's relevant, here. It's horrible; however, it's also not relevant to whether or not Hamas started a new discrete conflict (they did).
Do you think there is an ongoing conflict if Israel is maintaining a blockade of Gaza?
A blockade is an act of WAR. By any definition. There's no "new" conflict. War doesn't just "reset" because you say so.
War requires two states. Palestine isn’t one.
And the Cognitive Dissonance Award goes to...
Israel is an illegal occupying force. As such they are inherently always the aggressor.
Ok antisemite. Israel is defending itself from terrorists.
Abusing the term antisemitism to deflect criticism from an apartheid regime is disgusting.