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It's stretch to call what is shown in the video "parading". The video shows the body facedown in the back of a pickup, partially covered with gear and the legs of the militants also riding in the back. The truck drives off quickly once the crowd allows. It seems more they they are just trying to move the body.
Does it just look like a regular funeral car, moving the body of a peaceful person to the graveyard for a kind goodbye with grieving family? Or, if you focus, could you see a group of people laughing oddly? Notice the armed passengers in the pick-up truck, surely feeling on top of the world because of what they're doing. Look at the man casually grabbing her by her dreadlocks. Spot the man who carelessly spat on her head at the end of the video. Check out her unnatural pose - could you please look at how her arm and leg are bent? Surprisingly, there's not any military gear on her.
I almost forgot - the person killed so hatefully seems to have been recognized. Check this: https://www.instagram.com/p/CwxZUkQM7Mn/. Notice the same boots, the identical tattoo on her leg, her dreadlocks, the victim's clothing looks the same as the woman in the link, and they were both near Gaza borders before the event.
To make matters worse, there's lots of viral videos showing these bad guys boldly kidnapping innocent women.
Put all these pieces together and the picture is really dark. Yet there they are, those "militants" who are "just moving the body" and the people watching, all making a great fun out of her dead body. It really makes you think that IS a parade?
Jesus fucking Christ simmer the fuck down, the guy didn't say "HAMAS IS DOING ALLAH'S WORK ALL PRAISE HIS NAME" he just took issue with the terminology.
I'm taking issue with the grasping of straws to build resentment to the Palestinians and their resistance. Certainly, I personally do not agree with all of Hamas's methods and ideology, but that is irrelevant. They are simply the good guys in this fight and we shouldn't be clutching our pearls about it.
The ANC and their militant affiliates did some things that were labeled as terrorism in their struggle against apartheid in South Africa, yet they were objectively the good guys in that fight. I don't know why some people have a hard time seeing the similarities in the Palestinian struggle.
Anyone who kidnaps, rapes, and murders a civilian is a bad guy. Full stop.
In a broad, philosophical, humanitarian context okay, sure, maybe. However, in the specific context of a struggle were one side is trying to ethnically cleanse the other you usually have to be a dim coward to say that both sides are bad.
That's an argument we could have but it's not the one we're having. We're talking about the specific actions of these Hamas fighters. Even if, hypothetically, they are fighting for a good cause, the way they're going about it is SO abhorrent it renders their cause moot, morally.
And don't what about Israel because I know you want to. Israel is awful and that's also another separate conversation that we're not having.
Well, what is your argument? So what if some Hamas fighters allegedly did something bad (although it's not apparent that they've done anything besides collect a body, probably for ransom). Did the bombing of Dresden render the struggle against the Nazi's moot? Give me a break!
There's literal video of actual kidnappings
Get your apologist head out of the sand
I mean, really. Video of them standing over the bloody bodies of children, with guns, and them celebrating, and you say, what, they were probably just out for a morning stroll? Happened across a massacre that someone else did?
They need hostages and bodies to deter aerial bombing and to strengthen their negotiating position. What else are they going to do? It sucks that civilians get harmed, but that blood is on Israel's hands because ultimately they are the aggressor and occupier.
The blood is literally on the hands of the people who did the murdering.
Get out of here with your Narcissist's Prayer crap.
Who are you calling a narcissist here? The Palestinians are under Israeli occupation. The Israeli occupiers put them in this position. Rather, the Narcissist's Prayer poem fits the Israeli narrative pretty much perfectly.
I’ve become convinced that there are basically no good guys in war, but intentionally targeting civilians does put you a cut above the rest. Average Israelis and average Palestinians are the real victims here.
The Irish occasionally did bad things to English civilians, as did the Allies to the Nazis, the ANC to the boers, and I suppose in the present the Ukrainians to the Russians. Do you both-sides those conflicts as well? When bad things happen on behalf of a rightful liberation struggle it is ultimately the fault of the occupiers. The chickens come home to roost.
If you like I'm sure we can find some videos that actually show bodies being paraded through streets. That's just not what's happening in the video from the article. They are trying to move the body as quickly as they can, possibly even to prevent something really atrocious from happening. Like it or not, Hamas are the good guys in this fight, regardless of the actual provenance or treatment of the corpse.
Your literally arguing whether or not a dead body was being "paraded" or not, and saying - meh, they're fighting a fight I agree with, so it doesn't matter if atrocities are committed. Fuck. You.
Saying the article is inaccurate doesn't mean you support Hamas. Stop being stupid.
Yeah. That's all he's saying...
Hey, for all I know maybe Hamas is just bad a parading. Regardless, any and all atrocities in this conflict are ultimately the fault of the Israeli occupiers. I'm sorry if that's the side with which you identify.
Imagine being such a piece of garbage that this is your first thought...
And I don't care WHO is uLtImAtEly at fault. Atrocities are atrocities. And you're a piece of shit human being.